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So I may have a custom clutch coming. The type which was used on that 250bhp ray Gilbert micra. I figured that would do the job.

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Over kill... But it should prepare the car for the possible forged pistons ...cough lol. Don't know if using forged rods would be needed though as really the stock micra ones are forged. So? Yeah? No idea? The pin between piston and rod are different sizes no doubt. So new rods will be needed.

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SirChris said:
Over kill... But it should prepare the car for the possible forged pistons ...cough lol. Don't know if using forged rods would be needed though as really the stock micra ones are forged? San I wrong? So? Yeah? No idea? The pin between piston and rod are different sizes no doubt. So new rods will be needed.

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SirChris said:
I am not on much either Dude. Yeah a few updates. been avoiding the car as uni is here. How have you been? In miss the MSc. Made sure tapatalk was off my phone as to not get distracted.

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Aaah I see. Yea I am fine. All is good. No updates on both micra. I got uni so I am focusing with my uni than others. Good luck with your uni dude.


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@pollyp yeah been reading through, i dont know if you gave up with them. Or if anyone knows if the sunny, pulsar and the 100nx all used the same ones. figured you would be the best person to know this **** lol. I need pads and rotors soon, can you reccomend any?
also did you get any good pads and disks for the rear?
 
So if I wanna buy poxy brakes for this thing? just an n14 pulsar gubbins will do? Think I need to play with the servo. Also andy whats this **** about taking of the vac lines to the servo?
 
SirChris said:
So if I wanna buy poxy brakes for this thing? just an n14 pulsar gubbins will do? Think I need to play with the servo. Also andy whats this #### about taking of the vac lines to the servo?
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Just search gti-r brakes on eBay. Brings up loads

N14 pulsar stuff will be fine. Not sure if you need to modify to fit it. Paul should know that one

Dont take vac lines off the servo. Pointless idea. It makes the pedal ridiculously stiff for no reason
Only reason I'd do away with the servo is if I was on a twin master cylinder setup
 
I could lock up my brakes so easy I don't think the extra diameter makes a difference tbh, having them vented is more important. I reckon even 237mm vented brakes will be fine. Bigger rotors give more stopping force but anything above the force needed to lock up the wheels is pointless and just adds rotational mass that'll reduce acceleration.
 
Thats what vented is for. Bigger rotors have more mass so they can store more heat energy but the venting takes that away, only any benefit for say autosolo events where you don't get fast enough to generate on airflow so you need it.
 
Enuo said:
Bigger rotors give more stopping force but anything above the force needed to lock up the wheels is pointless and just adds rotational mass that'll reduce acceleration.
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Disagree
Brake properly you'll stop alot faster with bigger brakes
Increased frictional area etc
Lock up easier because if that seesaw effect of length and force

If you're locking up you're doing it wrong ;)
 
h701micra said:
Disagree
Brake properly you'll stop alot faster with bigger brakes
Increased frictional area etc
Lock up easier because if that seesaw effect of length and force

If you're locking up you're doing it wrong ;)
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Lock up means you can exceed the maximum grip of the tyres, which in turn means you can also achieve the limit of grip of tyres and achieve maximum breaking force.
 
Enuo said:
Lock up means you can exceed the maximum grip of the tyres, which in turn means you can also achieve the limit of grip of tyres and achieve maximum breaking force.
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But you'll never brake as fast as a larger brake would
Or supercars wouldn't need such large brakes

Lock up means more force is acting on the brakes than the wheels. Breaking traction.. not exceeding tyre grip limit
Using wheel lock up as judgement for brake sizing is a very poor idea
 
Much prefer the idea of biggest brakes. Yes ruin accel, but i like the idea now of bigger frictional stuff. less pedal more stopping stuff
 
h701micra said:
But you'll never brake as fast as a larger brake would
Or supercars wouldn't need such large brakes

Lock up means more force is acting on the brakes than the wheels. Breaking traction.. not exceeding tyre grip limit
Using wheel lock up as judgement for brake sizing is a very poor idea
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Supercars use large brakes as they have ridiculously wide tyres so the force that can be applied before you break traction is much higher, and they have to be able to stop repeatedly from 200mph+. They also often way in excess of 1400kg, roughly twice what Chris's car weighs and at 150mph top speed for Chris's car roughly 4 times the kinetic energy to disperse. If you cannot lock up your brakes you are not able to reach to maximum braking force eh, means you can fit bigger brakes...
 
I have some bigger rear discs and calipers off an almera you can have if you want Chris, if bigger brakes are your thing :)
 
at the end of the day...theres fek all in the difference between a load of these braking systems for the micra... the main thing is that they stay cool enough to not set a light and stay warm enough to work well enough... and theres such little diff between them.
 
Enuo said:
Supercars use large brakes as they have ridiculously wide tyres so the force that can be applied before you break traction is much higher, and they have to be able to stop repeatedly from 200mph+. They also often way in excess of 1400kg, roughly twice what Chris's car weighs and at 150mph top speed for Chris's car roughly 4 times the kinetic energy to disperse. If you cannot lock up your brakes you are not able to reach to maximum braking force eh, means you can fit bigger brakes...
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So basically your saying if I can lock up my wheels my brakes are too big?
That is in summary what you are trying to say. Which is, no offense, stupid.
I can lock any wheel up any time and any size of brake.
Its called pushing too hard on the pedal... meaning you're not using the brakes efficiently.
Coming to something we can relate to more. WRC cars... 330mm brakes... 185 tyres...
Why don't they use 237mm? Because larger brakes are more efficient at stopping the car. Full stop.
 
h701micra said:
So basically your saying if I can lock up my wheels my brakes are too big?
That is in summary what you are trying to say. Which is, no offense, stupid.
I can lock any wheel up any time and any size of brake.
Its called pushing too hard on the pedal... meaning you're not using the brakes efficiently.
Coming to something we can relate to more. WRC cars... 330mm brakes... 185 tyres...
Why don't they use 237mm? Because larger brakes are more efficient at stopping the car. Full stop.
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying if you can lock up your brakes your braking force is adaquate already. Larger brakes will brake more efficiently yes but there is a balance between extra rotating mass and braking effort. Rally tyres are also probably a much softer compound, and I bet 185 is a gravel tyre and you'd use much wider tyres on a tarmac stage.
What I'm saying is the size is a compromise and I personally don't believe the extra diameter is worth the reduction in acceleration but thats my opinion. Personally I won't be going bigger than my 247's because I think they're more than enough as is.
 

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