Porks bike carbs and boost project

[l_jonez]

Didn't fancy a sequential turbo set up then?

 

[h701micra]

Its a similar idea with boost side of it but not the key point of the twin charging which is drive ability and low down torque

 

[l_jonez]

Yep although I would have thought you could achieve as good with a small turbo for low down then a bigger one for mid to top?

Either way he's got a supercharger now so its a bit late throw biturbos in the mix. The plumbing (inlet side) would be similar tho

 

[h701micra]

Yep although I would have thought you could achieve as good with a small turbo for low down then a bigger one for mid to top?

I guess so potentially
Would have to be a small turbo tho

 

[l_jonez]

Yep probably off a 700cc 3 cylinder jobbie lol if I had the engine bay room I'd be giving it ago, nearly tempted to buy a Micra

 

[h701micra]

Yep probably off a 700cc 3 cylinder jobbie lol if I had the engine bay room I'd be giving it ago, nearly tempted to buy a Micra

Get a K10 we have space for such antics

 

[frank]

most diesel tubby,s are tiny, KP35 DCI k12 ones will boost from idle and top out at about 80hp

 

[pork]

So these match to the manifold , which is good.

If I were to swap to fuel injection, bare with me now, would these be ok to use ? They are In good condition, supposedly everything works..... £20

 

[pork]

 

[frank]

just the job neil bosch topfeeds by the looks 0280 155 ???

 

[l_jonez]

Yep their made for the job. Injection pump, regulator and a ecu and your laughing.

 

[Enuo]

get a megasquirt in there

 

[pork]

Cool!!

So if I use my swirl pot system, replace the pump with hp pump , and rising rate reg......megasquirt ?

 

[pork]

I know what megasquirt is, u replied jus as I was typing

Was questioning if that's right way to go

 

[pork]

just the job neil bosch topfeeds by the looks 0280 155 ???

Havnt a clues mate lol

Would I need maf sensor

 

[frank]

Cool!!

So if I use my swirl pot system, replace the pump with hp pump , and rising rate reg......megasquirt ?

nah, pre nats (type 5) nistune neil

 

[frank]

Havnt a clues mate lol

Would I need maf sensor

whats the part number on the side of the injectors ?

 

[pork]

Il have to check later, the mrs weren't happy I was at workshop playing on Xmas eve lol

So the general opinion, is these will
Be ok.......better than the carbs

What other components should I be looking for for conversion?

 

[Enuo]

Megasquirt has built in map sensor...

 

[frank]

Il have to check later, the mrs weren't happy I was at workshop playing on Xmas eve lol

So the general opinion, is these will
Be ok.......better than the carbs

What other components should I be looking for for conversion?

just a pump really mate, i ran my ghetto setup on 30psi fuel pressure for months

 

[pork]

So is efi conversion as easy as it sounds then? No other sensors needed?

 

[Enuo]

you need a crank position sensor, a maf or map sensor, a throttle position sensor and I believe an air temp sensor

 

[frank]

CG sensors and nistune is plug-n-play, and the type 5 is the same price as m/s

 

[pork]

Gahah, so not as easy then lol

 

[Enuo]

Well those throttle bodies will probably already have a tps on it... and I think you can use the signal from the cg dizzy to give crank position... and MS has a map built in...

 

[Enuo]

megasquirt also has 3d sparkmap aswell...
(I'm not trying to push megasquirt on you, just makes sense to have a faor comparison between nistune and megasquirt and let you decide on the merits of both )

 

[l_jonez]

Megasquirt would get my vote as well, just need to mount a trigger wheel and sensor, you can calibrate the current sensors ( water temp etc) to suit the ms. it also means you can ditch the dizzy then.

 

[Enuo]

Although if you can get the signal from the cg dizzy to work it'll save you money eh, and no fancy custom installs

 

[h701micra]

So he's 2 options
- CG ecu with nistune means finding a pre nats loom and ecu and then nistune
- Or mega squirt and utilise what's already there?

Cost wise megasquirt looks more feasible

 

[Enuo]

With megasquirt you could run a CGA3... more power, already has a crank position sensor on the fw...

 

[Stani1029]

With megasquirt you could run a CGA3... more power, already has a crank position sensor on the fw...

Which would then mean cga gearbox, mucking about with mounts, driveshafts?

 

[pork]

I like my £26.02 engine,
So think il stick with the cg.

Trigger wheel easy enough tol

 

[pork]

What's difference between micro squirt and megasquirt

 

[frank]

jeez, £445 for an unassembled MS3 ! non sequential ? + the cost of sensors etc ?
yet the nistune is £240 (inc single user licence) or less than £445 for one of ed,s p-n-p jobbies

 

[Enuo]

or MS2 v3 board for £200 or so
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=231118839308

 

[l_jonez]

Microsquirt is a stripped down version of megasquirt v2,

No on board ignition drivers or map sensor, so edits etc would need to be used along with external map.

Theres less outputs and inputs so I'm not sure how well it would work with boost.

For your setup megasquirt is the better option over microsquirt

 

[h701micra]

Personally I'd go for megasquirt.
Its something you can carry over to any project and cheaper

 

[pork]

Waiting for parts is killing me!!

 

[l_jonez]

I know that feeling. My car is currently sat up waiting for suppliers to re open

 

[mas12555]

Know you feeling I am waiting for so many parts for my car . Its not fun.

 

[pork]

Got this thru today.

Plugs been broke in transport

It's a tad bigger than I thought too lol

 

[Enuo]

Thats rubbish, will they replace the plug for you?

 

[pork]

Doubt it, it's just the casing, the terminals are fine.....only cost £16 , so not a major lose if it don't work

It is rather large, in all dimensions, no way I can try and mount to k11 water pump now, I'd have to notch the chassis Leg,

So gunna have to mount alternator side some how

 

[Enuo]

Can always go electric water pump if that helps...

 

[pork]

There's always that, il wait and see how yours goes lol

 

[mas12555]

Thats what I am doing on my build. Electric water pump and fuel pump to reduce strain on the engine and get that little bit more power.

 

[pork]

Started on supercharger and magnetic pulley brackets today, jus about squeezed it all in, it's going under alternator

Chop chop, saw saw, weld .....here's some pics

Belts coming tomorow, then gunna strengthen where necessary

 

[Enuo]

Started on supercharger and magnetic pulley brackets today, jus about squeezed it all in, it's going under alternator

Chop chop, saw saw, weld .....here's some pics

Belts coming tomorow, then gunna strengthen where necessary

Pr0n

 

[Enuo]

Have you checked you can get the correct length belt for that?

 

[pork]

Lol yeah, well, I lie, I presumed, then went crawling to my belt supplier and it's coming tomorow

I had to make the belt tensioner on the e/m pulley as space is an issue

Gonna try mount the alternator tomorow as I had to move it up a bit to fit

If It don't then il have to adapt it on the water pump side