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Not everyone understands our R Reg but he is our entertainment he's brilliantummmm... i still don't get it
Not everyone understands our R Reg but he is our entertainment he's brilliantummmm... i still don't get it
ummmm... i still don't get it
I bet I can fit the micra topmount without the topnut undoingthey are designed for the corsa mount , so you dont get the problems of the top nut undoing itself as you turn the steering! (like you get with the k11 mounts)
and it does,nt wear into the shaft either (which i have seen on 2 members cars)
members tend to just fit a nyloc which is,nt getting to the root of the problem, the last one i saw had worn a scar almost right through the shocker shaft !I bet I can fit the micra topmount without the topnut undoing
the thrust bearing is a different design andy, we tried to do that on karls about 3 yrs ago...........and failedProper spring cup, thrust bearing, micra top mount
Will just do it the same way I did the polo ones:the thrust bearing is a different design andy, we tried to do that on karls about 3 yrs ago...........and failed
I meant to use a mk2/3 golf thrust bearing... my badthe thrust bearing is a different design andy, we tried to do that on karls about 3 yrs ago...........and failed
That's poorly designed eh :/this is a corsa thrust bearing (totally different design to a k11 one) the step of the shaft sits under where the red arrow points to, and the weight of the car bears down onto it.
the k11 thrust bearing presses down onto the top spring cup (not the shaft step)
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that what i,m saying andy ^ that nut will undo itself, and wear will cut into the shaft !Will just do it the same way I did the polo ones:
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With you nowthat what i,m saying andy ^ that nut will undo itself, and wear will cut into the shaft !
Shall I be sat down for this Frank?like this and i,ll draw your attention to this comical thread http://www.micra.org.uk/threads/corsa-b-coilovers-to-fit-micra-how-too.46092/
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Because there is only a bearing between spring seat and topmount and not shock shaft and topmount? Because from what I remember the stock micra shocks don't have one... but then the polo and micra fronts don't have that unthreaded section before the shoulder?that what i,m saying andy ^ that nut will undo itself, and wear will cut into the shaft !
Tbh andy i dont know how the polo ones are designedBecause there is only a bearing between spring seat and topmount and not shock shaft and topmount? Because from what I remember the stock micra shocks don't have one... but then the polo and micra fronts don't have that unthreaded section before the shoulder?
Edit: Don't worry I worked it out, am gunna work something out so the upward shock load (compression) go through the spring seat
like this and i,ll draw your attention to this comical thread http://www.micra.org.uk/threads/corsa-b-coilovers-to-fit-micra-how-too.46092/
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But I always thought that with suspension the springs supported the weight of the car, and the shocks essentially just take the energy out of the springs? If the shock step took all the weight it would just compress fully surely?Tbh andy i dont know how the polo ones are designed
But the corsa ones are designed so that the step on the shaft bears all the weight of the car, where-as the k11 shaft nut can be removed with the car on its wheels and pushed downwards into the shock body (ie, not weight bearing)
Almost spot on.But I always thought that with suspension the springs supported the weight of the car, and the shocks essentially just take the energy out of the springs? If the shock step took all the weight it would just compress fully surely?
I figure that having the upward force of the shock acting against spring seat is only so that conpressive shock forces go through the bearing and allow the rubber mounted washer in the topmount to spin freely (as the shock load is taken by spring seat except on rebound which is a weak force by comparison?)
yes the spring supports the weight of the car, but on the corsa,s the thrust bearing upper half is directly bolted to the shoulder/step of the shock shaft (where is says "sit flush") and the corsa shaft is thicker/stronger as a result, because it also carries the weight of the carBut I always thought that with suspension the springs supported the weight of the car, and the shocks essentially just take the energy out of the springs? If the shock step took all the weight it would just compress fully surely?
I figure that having the upward force of the shock acting against spring seat is only so that conpressive shock forces go through the bearing and allow the rubber mounted washer in the topmount to spin freely (as the shock load is taken by spring seat except on rebound which is a weak force by comparison?)
Shocks never carry the weight of the car its not physically possible.and the corsa shaft is thicker/stronger as a result, because it also carries the weight of the car
Almost spot on.
Shocks aren't load bearing. Springs are.
Rebound is a much stronger force in comparison to compression.
A spring resists compression but aids rebound so the shock has to work against the springs energy.
Either way you look at it. The bearing should be on the spring seat in such a way that it doesn't rely on the shock shaft to rotate
My advice... get rid of the top spring cups
Purchase some flot top spring cups. These for example (£13.50each)
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And use suitable thrust bearings with micra top mounts
Have you got the measurements for the micra bearing?
fraid not mateHave you got the measurements for the micra bearing?
Normally they have large rubber mounts before the top cup unlike ours that's where the size difference isIs there some sort of metal cap that's meant to go on top would you know?