turbo build

[pollyp]

changing from a 1.0 to 1.3 preface may require changing the flywheel, clutch, gearbox, rear engine mount & bracket, gear linkages, driveshafts, front hub. also check the type of speedo on the 1.3 gearbox (mechanical or electronic) matches the one on the actual car.

if the 1L micra ur thinking of buying does require all those changes above, consider if all the extra time, effort, tools, storage, labour and cost of buying, checking and fitting all the 1.3L parts in total is worth it compared to the cost of just buying a 1.3L car.

 

[Skinner_87]

As Paul's said, it would be far easier to just buy a 1.3 preface lift (the one with the grill not in the bonnet) as the engine will just drop in.

Also you'll have spares if the motor goes kaboom , smash, bang , wollop, clunk, pop

 

[Stani1029]

Will fit any distributor model facelift as the gearboxes all accept the 1.3 flywheel

 

[Azzydot]

right am with u all now I'll just get a Micra 1.3 with dizzy model and make sure it has a gearbox so I can just swap over my engine in, Polly is right it's time and more cost in parts for a 1.0 charging over to 1.3 parts, I'll just start with 1.3 micra


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[frank]

right am with u all now I'll just get a Micra 1.3 with dizzy model and make sure it has a gearbox so I can just swap over my engine in, Polly is right it's time and more cost in parts for a 1.0 charging over to 1.3 parts, I'll just start with 1.3 micra


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you can fit the 1.3 clutch and g/box to a (dizzy) facelift 1.0 np azzy, and its f/w is lighter too

 

[Azzydot]

so frank will the facelift model micra 1.0 engine mounts be same and drive shafts ? as Polly said it's Diffrent or is it same to 1.3 ?


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[Azzydot]

Just been to scrap yard and charging my coil flywheel for a dizzy 1.3, the man said to come Tommow as he will take it out so that's really sorted,


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[Dougyledds]

My head hurts

 

[frank]

My head hurts

mine too

so frank will the facelift model micra 1.0 engine mounts be same and drive shafts ? as Polly said it's Diffrent or is it same to 1.3 ?


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changing from a 1.0 to 1.3 preface may require changing the flywheel, clutch, gearbox, rear engine mount & bracket, gear linkages, driveshafts, front hub. also check the type of speedo on the 1.3 gearbox (mechanical or electronic) matches the one on the actual car.

if the 1L micra ur thinking of buying does require all those changes above, consider if all the extra time, effort, tools, storage, labour and cost of buying, checking and fitting all the 1.3L parts in total is worth it compared to the cost of just buying a 1.3L car.

 

[h701micra]

Well at least the entertainment hasn't stopped

 

[Azzydot]

Some problems as always happend, I have opened the timing cover off and took off the timing upper retainer out as I wanted to fit it back on 1 long screw fell down the bottom, put my hands down but no luck. I try to take the bottom cover off but it's not coming off. Can anyone help ? What if I took my oil sump off wil I find the screw ?


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[frank]

oh dear !

 

[Azzydot]

frank I can't take the cams out tryed 2 22mm spanner, also my timing chain don't have the markings on ?


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[skymera]

It should have dropped into the sump.
Whoopsie.

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[Azzydot]

that's good news if it has, I will check Tommow


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[skymera]

I say should. I always took extra care when changing the top tensioner on my 1.0...which I did several times.

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[Azzydot]

I couldn't take the cams off as there is no makings on mines, and the bottom cover don't come off


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[Stani1029]

Set to tdc and mark the chain yourself, it's easy.

 

[Azzydot]

U mean 2nd mark on the pully? And then like tip ex on both cams and then take them out? Will the cams come out with the timing pully coming off ??


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[frank]

there,s a thread on here from about 2009 azzy, where a member dropped 1 of those 2 tensioner bolts down the void, he ended up taking the sump etc off

 

[Enuo]

U mean 2nd mark on the pully? And then like tip ex on both cams and then take them out? Will the cams come out with the timing pully coming off ??


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If you bought a haynes manual it would explain all of this lol

 

[Azzydot]

I have the manual on my apps and I have followed it, but there is no markings on my cam pullys, as someone here said it might be in my sump, and I can make my own markings but saying that how do I know if the last owner had it timed probley for me to make the markings and just melting pistons lol


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[frank]

the markings/coloured links wear off usually azzy, you just count the links between the dots on the sprockets (loads of threads on here and cisco,s)

 

[Azzydot]

right frank I get u on my cams I have a 8mm hole on the pullys so from them I count each link up ?


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[Azzydot]

I have checked that before upper chain is so tight if I take it off how will it go in?


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[Azzydot]

the markings/coloured links wear off usually azzy, you just count the links between the dots on the sprockets (loads of threads on here and cisco,s)

Frank on the Nissan manual it says take cam bolts off, chain tensioner and idle pully bolt but won't that move the other pullys and cam if my chains still on ?

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[frank]

you only need take 1 sprocket off mate, 22mm socket and breaker bar, and 22mm open end on the cam

 

[Azzydot]

u can't get it to open frank I had a big breakers bar on it with a 22mm socket on cam end and a 22 mm spanner on inside cam holding it down and trying to break it loose, it's really tight or stuck


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[Enuo]

u can't get it to open frank I had a big breakers bar on it with a 22mm socket on cam end and a 22 mm spanner on inside cam holding it down and trying to break it loose, it's really tight or stuck


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Eat 4 weetabix and try again

 

[Azzydot]

Haha not only me my mates have tryed and it's really tight or something am doing wrong


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[Stani1029]

Nah youre just not strong enough, putting weight on the breaker with your foot and holding the cam with the spanner always works

 

[Azzydot]

Haha , yeh I'll try it that way Tommow and check thanks


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[mrcheese]

Subscribed....





0800-call-frank

 

[Huggy444]

Just subscribing for all the info that will be given repeatedly

 

[mrcheese]

Or for comedy value.... no disrespect azzydot.

Im sure ul get there.

 

[Azzydot]

Thanks to pollyp, frank, stani
I did how u told me and I took the chain off and head off within 10 mins
now just checking the pistons looks clean and no wear or scratches, need to 2x head gasket, will I need arp bolts ?

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[Stani1029]

Standard bolts are fine but I'd recommend buying the victor reinz headgaskets over any cheap ebay/motor factor ones

 

[Azzydot]

Right how much are the gasket I need close deck ones right ?


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[frank]

Right how much are the gasket I need close deck ones right ?


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the K11 CG/CGA are all the same h/g azzy

 

[Azzydot]

That's fine frank I have took my old headgasket off to get the replace of the same one


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[Azzydot]

the K11 CG/CGA are all the same h/g azzy

frank do I need to skim block or sand it down, or use seal glue for gasket ? What will u recommend


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[frank]

frank do I need to skim block or sand it down, or use seal glue for gasket ? What will u recommend


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nah, looks ok to me mate, just new gaskets

 

[Azzydot]

Yeh it's more clean now as I cleaned it with wd40 with a smooth rag, so do u just drop 2 gasket in without sealing it ? And then drop head on with bolts ?


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[Azzydot]

think my chain is ok, has Polly or frank use 2 head gaskets if so are they from eBay or custom, or from Nissan genuine ones don't know wat will suit boost


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[Enuo]

think my chain is ok, has Polly or frank use 2 head gaskets if so are they from eBay or custom, or from Nissan genuine ones don't know wat will suit boost


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2 x Victor Reinz OEM ones, pretty sure Stani mentioned this before

 

[Azzydot]

Yeh he did by the name of the brand I thought they customs ones sorry, that's fine I'll order them thanks


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[Stani1029]

Im out

 

[Azzydot]

what fuel pump will be a straight swap ? for boost, also will I need a Uprated fuel reg if I go for 370 cc injectors ?


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[Azzydot]

my ruff setup will be cutting and welding next week


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[pollyp]

if the sealing sections of the head are really pitted or warped then skimming it would help.
if it's mosty smooth then I just clean it absolutely spotless n dry with carb cleaner and clean rag.
if there's any remaining bits of gasket/dirt on the sealing faces, I lightly scrape the surface clean with several fresh sharp razor blades (don't scratch the surface, just the unwanted gasket/dirt) till u only see shiny metal and clean & dry with carb cleaner.

I used single victor reinz HG (genuine nissan ones) on my turbo no probs.
nissan sell em for £80 but I got the same HG from ireland for £34
http://micra.org.uk/threads/pollymobiles-rebuild.35251/page-98#post-637680

cheapo ebay HG don't last well under boost.

fitting head bolts, I thoroughly clean, retap, reoil/regrease every one to ensure smooth tightening with a good quality calibrated torque wrench & angle gauge.

making it reliable is all bout detailed planning, learning from others mistakes, careful construction, common sense, heat management, supplying enough fuel and careful sensible mapping.