WOHOO New Car! (now with pics)

You havent seen the ST then ;)

200bhp from a 0.9L Supercharged+Turbocharged car ;)

With more to come I understand... hehe
 
James said:
You havent seen the ST then ;)

200bhp from a 0.9L Supercharged+Turbocharged car ;)

With more to come I understand... hehe
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i have seen it on here

a jdm ctr at 220bhp as standard with no turbo ;)

i know people with standard ctr a focus rs and a glanza.

out of the box the focus edges the civic and both leave the glanza make the glanza 160ish and they are all on par.

the glanza is now at 202bhp and kills them both.

the focus with slight mods will see good gains and will beat the glanza and then the glanza ia stuck at 202bhp without major work..

and again the civic is stuck without going charged.

you need 2ltrs and a turbo for a good base.allthough the ctr or itr is my type of car and suits my style of driving ;)
i do admit turbos are the way forward just not on a small engine.
 
Don't see why the engine size makes that much difference. If it's a strong engine (like the ST) and has mod's available, then why not! If everyone started out with 2ltr engines it would probably get boring. But obviously we respect your personal view!
 
Ems said:
Don't see why the engine size makes that much difference. If it's a strong engine (like the ST) and has mod's available, then why not! If everyone started out with 2ltr engines it would probably get boring. But obviously we respect your personal view!
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in the end. The lack of displacement will hold any smaller engine back compared to something bigger that can take the same amount of abuse etc. SR20 for example.
 
James said:
You havent seen the ST then ;)

200bhp from a 0.9L Supercharged+Turbocharged car ;)

With more to come I understand... hehe
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as kev said he wants a car he can get on and drive that st wouldnt be much good as it seems to be apart at least 2 times a year for rebuilds and so on

i respect the power it has but its not really a road car more of a weekend blast car
 
S racing, I don't agree actually!

You listed a bunch of cars that make around 100-120bhp/litre stock. The ST is around 200bhp/litre. Soon it should be more.

A turbo most certainly is a replacement for displacement on a smaller engine and with that gives efficiencies a large engine would not be capable of!

Paul I love the way you criticise the ST when you have never seen one.. (?) I used it for a day to day car and deliberately push it to its limits (Which move further away as I improve on its weaknesses) however, I do agree its a shame to waste the ST as a day to day car, as like any car doing 20K a year on it won't do it much good. Do bear in mind however, that my old ST needed nothing more than a new turbo to make it reach 90,000 miles. (ok so I did kill several clutches and a few gearboxes, but stock K10s seem to do the same anyway)
 
Ed said:
S racing, I don't agree actually!

You listed a bunch of cars that make around 100-120bhp/litre stock. The ST is around 200bhp/litre. Soon it should be more.

A turbo most certainly is a replacement for displacement on a smaller engine and with that gives efficiencies a large engine would not be capable of!

im sorry but you cant tune your st to a better standard than a 2.0ltr lump can be tuned to

little bandits proved that and its standard internals are good for 500bhp ,whats the st rated at?

you choose any 1.0ltr and ill choose any 2.0ltr and 1k to spend and we wil see who wins?

and the st is not 200bhp per lite as stock
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Car: Efini RX-7 Type RZ

Official engine capacity (Mazda figures): 1.3 litre (654 cc per rotor)

Official Stock power: 280hp (not the real hp due to strict japanese laws)

Actual Stock power: just over 300hp

These cars regularly run 400hp and can be tuned to way above that.

I appreciate it's not a conventional engine though.
 
im sorry but you cant tune your st to a better standard than a 2.0ltr lump can be tuned to
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Lets sort this mess out immediately, and talk specific output. Not my car has more cc's than yours as that really doesn't put any context on things and makes the subject entirely irrelevant.

First of all stock: BHP/Litre:

ST = 118
K11 1.3 = 58
K11 1.0 = 56
JDM CTR = 110 < exceptional
Almera VZ-R (1.6 200bhp)= 125 <considered the worlds highest specific power output for a N/A production engine.
Glanza (135 stock) = 103
Pulsar GTi-R= 110
Focus RS= 106.

Those are STOCK comparisons. It should be quite clear that for its capacity the ST is very impressive. Now on to your next claim that LB is capable of 500bhp. Actually its not. The SR20DE/T suffer problems which I shall not go into here that prevents these kind of powers being reliably made. Yes you can do things to help prevent them, but I am not going to go into that now. As it happens the CTR engines also suffer with the same problems, once you begin to tune them. One of the most capable engines I have personally worked with is the 4G63 engine. With much less work than a SR20 we were creating in excess of 276bhp/litre.

The rotary engine cannot be compared to any of these. Its an entirely different concept, and you could also argue relatively successfully that its not really a true 1.3 litre engine. Typically also rotary engines are also less economic than their piston counterparts of similar power output.
 
what you have all been waiting for!!!!

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I'm just off out now for a meal, so I can't leave a long post.

but here it is anyway :D:D:D:D:D

A few niggles still to sort out like the brakes, I have them but are not fitted yet, other then that it drove superbly from York to Leicester, a good test of the engine.....

I love it to bits, I'll let you know more about it later or tomorrow :D

Kev
 
Looking good Kev :) Get some side pics, as i can honestly say i haven't seen one of these before!! :blush:
 
Gorgeous cars, i'm so jealous. And sizewise they're like the cousin of the K11!

UKDM Starlet:
Code: 
Length:    3740 mm
Height:    1400 mm
Weight:    830 kg
Wheelbase: 2300 mm
K11:
Code: 
Length:    3708 mm
Width:     1585 mm
Height:    1430 mm
Weight:    835 kg
Wheelbase: 2360 mm
 
ed. small engines are not a good base to tune from

im not saying you cant tune them to big power (in your case 170bhp is big power when a gtr has way more than this as stock.

your right about bhp per litre but that was not the point i made
bhp per litre isnt going to win a race but it wil however let you brag about it small cc.

but you forgot about hondas s2000 bhp per litre

if you want a fast car get a bigger charged engine.

ive heard of one sr20 running 500bhp on standards and one at 700 with uprated internals

all engines will see problems when highly tuned thats just obvious

kev..nice car, my friends is 202bhp with hybrid ,fmic and remap its also 900kg its a real weapon

what plans have you got?
 
Now that’s what I’m talking about! Excellent choice I was worried when you said you were going to keep the escort, you have now restored my faith in you lol, only jk'in

Fantastic car very impressed :)
 
Very nice example there Kev........1st mod, get shot of that nasty HKS filter ;)

s-racing said:
turbo isnt the replacement for displacement!

nice cars though,but the small engine puts me off tuning one
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A wiseman once said, there are two replacements for displacement........boost and rpm ;) lol
 
Nice one Kev. Good work, looks like a nice clean example. And you've certainly bought it from a reputable company! I think I heard that their BNR32 is running over 800hp now!

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S-Racing, little bandit doesn't run standard internals. You could say the same about 2.0Litre turbo's, there's no point in tuning one, you may aswell start with a 3.5litre V6 or 3.0Litre Twin Turbo. The argument is endless and pointless.
 
Alienfish360 said:
S-Racing, little bandit doesn't run standard internals. You could say the same about 2.0Litre turbo's, there's no point in tuning one, you may aswell start with a 3.5litre V6 or 3.0Litre Twin Turbo. The argument is endless and pointless.
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but thats when weight comes into it and COG. this is why most american muscle cars only go one way (forward) :)
 
s-racing said:
but thats when weight comes into it and COG. this is why most american muscle cars only go one way (forward) :)
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Well I don't care what engine size I have, I'm delighted with the performance and is fast enough for me. I will never get bored of the turbo coming on boost and for a car weighing in under 1000kg, a 1.3 turbo is just right when comparing power to weight ratio's.

I was looking at impreza's and lots of other turbo cars, but at the end of the day it's down to personal preference and what your main ambitions are with the car, personally I'm only considering front mounting the intercooler and getting Ed to map it with an e-manage.

Kev :)
 
put a hybrid on it with the fmic and ed to map it ;)

i wasnt saying you made a bad choice of car in anyway.i was mentioning the tuning potential
 
Kev said:
Well I don't care what engine size I have, I'm delighted with the performance and is fast enough for me. I will never get bored of the turbo coming on boost and for a car weighing in under 1kg, a 1.3 turbo is just right when comparing power to weight ratio's.
Kev :)
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That is a light car indeed, what's it filled with, helium?
 
lol thanks Craig!!! :p

Anyway an update on the car, everything is going ok, I have it booked into a garage on Thursday to give it a full service.

I was going to do the brakes myself until the wheel nuts were having non of it, the place I took it to, to balance the wheels must have over tightened the nuts. With a brace I can actually drag car before the nuts will loosen. I have actually ordered a wheel nut gun as this will come in very handy for future work.

So hopefully after Thursday everything should be sorted and I can start to enjoy the car and not be worrying about the brakes lol!

Kev
 
where bouts in lesta r u m8? ive also got a glanza..do you go to any local cruises or anything?

Please don't use 'txt speak' Cheers
 
small world, I don't go to any local cruises, sorry not my thing really.

I mainly attend shows at santa pod, donny show and JAE.

Kev :)
 
Another update on the car, I managed to finally change the brakes on tuesday night.

New discs, pads on the front and I changed the pads on the rear, all I can say is I have never seen pads like it, the inside pads on the rear were completely shot, nothing left at all!!!!

I could really do with getting new rear discs, however I'm still waiting on the garage to send new ones to me and then possibly even changing the rear pads again.

It went in for the service on thursday and got the all the clear from the garage other then a wheel bearing on the front offside wheel. So I'm well chuffed with that, MOT is due in 6 months, so hopefully it will go through ok.

Still getting use to the car and how it drives, but I'm throughly enjoying it and I think I've made a good choice in getting a glanza, it's soo responsive to drive and not as common as impreza that you see on the road almost every day.

More images to come when it stops raining and I can finally clean it up and get some good photo's of it.

Kev :)
 
Just had a look at this hread in which I missed.

That my friend is a nice car...liking the white / black combo!!!

Ed, you have stated that the SR20 gets unreliable around 500 BHP (which I don't have by the way, and I have still stock pistons...LOL) and there is a reason for this. You also state that the CTR engine (K20) also suffers from a similar problem.

What's the issue that limits reliablilty around 500 BHP?

I'm not aware of one on the SR20 as long as it's built properly and maintained properly it should last for years!

What did you mean bud?

Thanks

Dave
 
Thought I'd post up a little update on the car, not had much time to do anything to it of late, just getting to know it and how everything works. 6 days a week doesn't leave much time on the car :(

I have made my first purhases for the new car, should be all done in time for JAE to.

Apline flip out headunit with additional dvd player.

whiteline -40mm springs
front and rear anti roll bar
adjustable panhard rod
anti lift caster kit.

Also boost restriction has been removed from 1st and 2nd gear.

I might get the wheels re-done in gloss black or possibly go white, but finding out they are VERY lighweight rota wheels, they are now staying for sure. Mid Rear spoiler is almost certainly going anytime soon.

I'll try and post up some better images when I get round to taking some more.
 

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