To turbo, or not to turbo?

[Lugseile]

I have been planning to build a high compression cg13 but with aggressive cams,sr20 throttle body, mullholland type intake manifold, bigger injectors and janspeed exhaust manifold and system but browsing thru yahoo i came across this
http://translate.google.com/transla...age.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/167087875
i'm wondering wud this be worth importing ?
would there a be allot of hassle in getting this setup working?
any opinions or advice for me guys?

 

[frank]

looks a decent kit eh running a lot of spark retard is a big compromise on a daily tho

 

[Lugseile]

i don't understand ? can you explain please frank?

 

[frank]

i don't understand ? can you explain please frank?

it looks like a fuel controller in the kit (piggyback) and without some sort of spark control you have to run a lot of retard to avoid det (many run 15deg of retard) which is fine for a trackcar, because you dont use 1k to 3k rpm much, but its a big compromise on a daily driver

 

[Lugseile]

so are u sayin there wud be no power at the low revs?

 

[frank]

so are u sayin there wud be no power at the low revs?

if you go and retard your timing 15 deg and drive it for a week you will know what it feels like off boost without a remap or some other form of spark control (or you could just fit the kit and hope your ringlands and h/g hold out )

 

[Lugseile]

so if i got it remapped i'd have no problem? i planned on getting it mapped at some point anyway.

 

[frank]

so if i got it remapped i'd have no problem? i planned on getting it mapped at some point anyway.

sure, mine drives like any other CGA3 with a 4kg f/w if i drive it off boost..............its not cheap tho

 

[Lugseile]

its not cheap tho

do you mean that kit isn't cheap?

 

[frank]

do you mean that kit isn't cheap?

no, engine management

 

[mckenziecz]

looks like decent kit. good turbo too

 

[Lugseile]

Okay i got a price of €900 for this kit delivered to me from japan thru Japanese Performance wat do ye think? is it worth it? I'm liking the idea of goin turbo now

Also frank if i understand corectly, with ur mapped cga3 turbo the spark is normal off boost then once u have boost pressure the spark is retarded. Am i right?
And if thats the case is it possible to do the same on cg13 using a dizzy? As it was my understandin that the timing of the spark is controlled only by the exhaust cam position. Am i wrong?

 

[frank]

Thats a lot of dosh eh !
And just study some online spark maps. Polly,s or other nissan DE,s, and you will see a lot of difference between n/a and turbo.
And yes the dizzy is driven by the exh cam, but can be adjusted np
the "key" element is LOAD, the spark timing is critical under certain load conditions

 

[SirChris]

mate...do it! Turbo is the nuts

 

[SirChris]

Yeah but getting someone to make the kit for yuo would no doubt be as much eh?

 

[mckenziecz]

That greddy turbo it worth that alone

 

[frank]

Yeah but getting someone to make the kit for yuo would no doubt be as much eh?

it usually ends up being more than quoted tho eh (import duties etc) there is usually a kit on sale here or ebay, and yes turbo is nuts my ghetto setup was great fun, but if its a daily, with some urban driving then you tend to be off boost for 95% of the time (even cruising @ 70 i,m running about MINUS 10 psi !)

 

[SirChris]

yeah, but for the average joes like us! simplifys things a bit, yeah the import taxes would be a nightmare actually. I have never seen a kit on ebay! our one anyway!

 

[frank]

That greddy turbo it worth that alone

he,s claiming some shaftplay going by the translation, and they,re just a generic mitsubishi td04 11b surely ?

 

[Lugseile]

That price is including taxes and delivery! and i too have never seen a kit for sale on ebay or here but maybe i just looked at wrong times

 

[SirChris]

I suppose you could build a kit to that spec easy enough for grand and a half? maybe 2..that including maybe nistune eh?

 

[jk9194]

Nice turbo kit I would buy it but you can get cheaper than this kit tho....

Are you defo to get this? If yes then good luck

 

[frank]

That price is including taxes and delivery!

hopefully

 

[Lugseile]

hopefully

Well he did say that was an estimate so u cud be right

 

[Lugseile]

Jury is still out on whether to buy this or not. Am very tempted but i have plenty other things i shud be spendin my money on lol
An engine wud be a gud start