Super Chargers,

NeX

NeX

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Can anyone recommend a good super charger? i know the Toyota SC12 is a good one for micras but they are quite hard to find and impossible to get new.

any other superchargers ?

thanks ppl
 
I know of the Mini Cooper S charger, but don't know how easy it would be to fit. Would love one in my car though :D
 
thanks James,

don't suppose you know where i could get one? or is it a case of looking on ebay lol,
 
IIRC the cooper charger spins the wrong direction to the engine.

not sure though.

type-r on here has a SuperCharged micra, maybe he can help? he has the sc12.

pepper:D
 
cool thanks people :D

so are all the new minis super charged?? because there is one in my local scrappy :)
 
Its totally different to a turbo mate. 0 lag because its boosting from idle since its driven from the crank. It won't see as much top end power as a turbo but it will produce more torque lower down then a turbo. And it makes a hell of a difference to a car. Unlike a turbo you dont need to gain RPM's and wait for it to spoon, then get more power and keep the revs up to go fast. On a decent set up S/C you juts plant the loud pedal and the torque pulls you a along. it's basically like dropping a larger engine into the car :)
 
Ian said:
Its totally different to a turbo mate. 0 lag because its boosting from idle since its driven from the crank. It won't see as much top end power as a turbo but it will produce more torque lower down then a turbo. And it makes a hell of a difference to a car. Unlike a turbo you dont need to gain RPM's and wait for it to spoon, then get more power and keep the revs up to go fast. On a decent set up S/C you juts plant the loud pedal and the torque pulls you a along. it's basically like dropping a larger engine into the car :)
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thanks that is what i whanted to know!!!!
just been looking they are not cheap (new one's) 3000 pounds ish but there cheap second hand!!!!
 
i was making a point edward that fitting a mini's supercharger into a k11 bay would be difficult, im sure someone would have enquired why if they were interested, they are very large units, i have seen them fitted in saxo engine bay - which has more space than the k11, the only was they could get it in was was with the use of an extension bar, i'll find an image
 
has anyone got any specs between the cooper SC and the Toyota SC?

size wise i mean :)

the k11 has plenty of room if you get a custom radiator and make a new cross member... you might even be able to get half a meter in between the front of the engine and the back of the bumper.... could even try a radiator in the boot mod :D

i assume that the altenator has to be shifted in any case...

with fitting an SC is it pretty much a case of what ever you can get to fit? or is there differences? for instance if you chuck on a turbo that is too big then it just wont spool and if it's too small you wont see a good power gain...
 
i sourced my SC from Australia and it was pretty easy to get over here. Just paid via plastic and the job was done.

I emailed that guy again and suddenly he has racked up his prices for SC's know! Also the hardest part of SC'n a micra k11 is the fabrication of the exhaust manifold. If you cannot get this spot on then theres no point. Mine was custom made by a exhaust specialist. The rest was mounting the SC onto a custom plate onto the block and lining it all up. Then came the part of getting it all running of the main engine pulley. After loads of plucking around and 2weeks of bruised knuckles the SC was mounted correctly.

Then came the manifold bolted that straight on... Then got some custom pipework made for all the plumbing, and used toughened rubber components for connections.

After this the timing was retarted a few degrees to allow it to ignite with the new mixture.

The feul regulator and the TB had to be played around with to get the right mixture. And it was running OK. Still not what i had wanted it too as it wnt feul throughout the rev range because the ECU dnt no when and how much to throw into the engine.

So then i took the car off road for a little while whilst im installing a Greddy Emanage to it. Going to get that tuned soon and get the performance i been wanting.

For those who are confused. This account was my mates who had a micra and i suggested him to join, but as he has moved on i thought i might as well take it over.
 
Type-R if you don't mind me asking, how much is the S/C now? And also how much did you spend getting it all setup? It's one of my plans for next year when i've finished N/A tuning... :)
 
James said:
Type-R if you don't mind me asking, how much is the S/C now? And also how much did you spend getting it all setup? It's one of my plans for next year when i've finished N/A tuning... :)
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im assuming you mean on a new car ?
 
I'd say it would be more difficult to supercharge than to turbo. You have the issue of having to make sure all pullies are straight on it to start with :p

Nex, don't forget since it's driven off the crank, you will lose power just driving the supercharger. So if the supercharger is too big, and you do not have the power to turn it over, it won't run
 
mine cost me £300 for SC intercooler plumbing rubbers and loads of other bits and bobs etc etc fabrication. The rest i did myself.
 
Nice.. all except for the retarding the ignition, thats BAD but your correcting that with the e-manage which is ideal. People must remember that retarding the ignition via the distributor also messes up ALL the base engine timing for the injectors etc. Its not something you really want to do.

I may have some developments with the mini SC and the K11 in a few months. This thread has spurred me on somewhat.

Ed
 
Type-R said:
mine cost me £300 for SC intercooler plumbing rubbers and loads of other bits and bobs etc etc fabrication. The rest i did myself.
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just cheaking is yours from a mini and can you tell us exactly were yours is from e.g.the webpage or the company
 
mines a from a 4AGE mk1 mr2. i sourced it from australia.

i saw one for sale on ebay few weeks ago... I was going to get the SC from a polo g40 but they are way to unreliable and keep on needing rebuilding. The toyota one is indestructable!! well nearly :laugh:
 
Ed said:
Nice.. all except for the retarding the ignition, thats BAD but your correcting that with the e-manage which is ideal. People must remember that retarding the ignition via the distributor also messes up ALL the base engine timing for the injectors etc. Its not something you really want to do.

I may have some developments with the mini SC and the K11 in a few months. This thread has spurred me on somewhat.

Ed
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I hope so :p
 
Good luck with the quest.......

I have a question for Ed, are you going to reconnect your SC or just keep it bypassed? Yes you are now running uber power with just the turbo, but 'surely' you'll get better low down acceleration/starts, etc from using the SC too? :)
 
Alienfish360 said:
I'd say it would be more difficult to supercharge than to turbo. You have the issue of having to make sure all pullies are straight on it to start with :p
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Thats not as difficult as you may first think :)

also James, if youre full NA i doubt a sc on top would work...but not knowing your plans isnt helping mind :)
 
great comments guys :) what is the smallest SC? i want one that is small in size so i have more room to play with and also so that it doesn't take too much power from the crank...

yo Ed do you have a pic of the March ST SC so i can see how big it is? i've found it's soo hard to see in real life lol :)
 
Retepetsir said:
Good luck with the quest.......

I have a question for Ed, are you going to reconnect your SC or just keep it bypassed? Yes you are now running uber power with just the turbo, but 'surely' you'll get better low down acceleration/starts, etc from using the SC too? :)
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I have had the supercharger working properly for a couple of months now :) It is so much nicer around town, but with it I only average about 25 mpg.
 
ED it must be good to have a ST supercharged power and Turbo power i would love that!

i was going to turb's my k11 whilst i was SC'n but then it would just blow up like these k10s do i didnt do it.
 
Type-R said:
i was going to turb's my k11 whilst i was SC'n but then it would just blow up like these k10s do i didnt do it.
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Thats not very clear.. But if you mean the K10's blow up, thats a totally incorrect statment! :)
 

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