Micra rally build

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Welsh micra

Hi all, I've had a j1000 spec Micra for a couple of years, but as an apprentice mechanic the cost of stage rallying is a bit much so I've been thinking of road rallying and autotesting.the shell isn't the best so I'm going to strip it and scrap what's left:(
I currently drive a 2002 1.0 and I'm looking at changing the car so rather than get rid of the Micra I'm thinking of using this one and have an ongoing project over a couple of years until I can afford to stage rally again.however I'm starting to plan how I want it and the first thing I've come across is the nats system, the question is will it be best to remove the nats or will I be ok leaving it?
I'll try and update as and when I do some bits on the car but as I work 5.5 days a week I don't get much free time
Any advice is much appreciated
 
Hi, any pictures of it? I am in the same situation as yourself at the moment, being an apprentice mechanic. I also just bought a F1000 Micra, but plans are to make it a fairly competitive 1.4 Tarmac car. Where in Wales are you from, might I ask?

Mike
 
Good to see more people keeping motor sport alive :)

Its easier @Welsh micra to leave your NATS system be. To eliminate it you'd need a pre nats loom and ecu iirc
 
Thanks for the replies, I'm in deganwy, between Conwy and Llandudno in north wales.pics will be uploaded at some point as my computers down at the moment and I'm using my phone for Internet,eventually I'd like to mod the new Micra when I get back into stage rallying, possible s1000 championship, so it'd be interesting as to what you do with yours mike
Thanks for the info on the nats, it'd be easier to leave it but I thought I'd have to remove it so that's a bonus.
The new Micra has coil packs, are they ok for Motorsport or does splashing around in puddles upset the electronics??
 
My car is from up that way, it has come from Rhyl and done 2 Cambrian rallies. :) My plans are to put it back onto Tarmac (already got suspension setup), 1.4 engine (already got) and Motorbike carbs (need to buy). Going to lighten the Flywheel I think, maybe do a bit of work to the head (maybe cams etc) and fit a Paddle clutch (already bought).

I looked at doing Rally First, but gravel is quite expensive and some rounds are a hell of a distance away. I think I will do a few odd events in 2014 with the aim of doing the 2015 Welsh Tarmac championship as most of them are pretty local (minus the Angelsey rally).

My car is on a coilpack and will continue with coilpack too. I know they arent as easy to tune, but I can't really see it being much of a problem plus with carbs, its only used for a spark, as the fuelling is done via the carbs anywat. Personally, I would find a coilpack better in the wet than HT leads. Might not be the case, but never had issues with my 106 GTI on a coilpack, where as had a few issues with my previous peugeot 106 that was still on a dizzy setup and HT leads with misfire as water got in etc.

Cant wait to see some pictures :)
 
Oh right, Rhyls pretty local to me I might know the car, any pics?? What suspension do you run? I'm looking at stripping the rally car, cage, seats, engine ,gearbox, etc and as many parts as possible as I can't do road rally's in it, it was a cat c so the shell isnt good, and I'm going to prep the road car I have over a few years, ill take my time and get it how I want it.

I'm looking at getting some suspension, engine mounts and a few bits from matt humphris and go from there, I'd like to eventually have a go at some gravel rallies in the future, but ill be doing road rallies autotests and trials in it for now as we'll as marshalling on events so that will keep me busy,I'd also love to have a go at naving so if your ever stuck give me a shout,I'm a complete novice but willing to learn!!

I see what you mean, it's been fine so far with all of the rain weve been getting so hopefully it will be ok, where abouts are you from??
 
I will be using BC Sportline adjustable suspension, available to buy from Rallyschool as he is a stockist of them.

Matt Humpries is a real nice guy. He has given me lots of information when I had my old Micra and bought a few things from him too, like the engine mounts (real good quality especially for ~£150 for the set) and Paddle clutch kit (its still in the box from when I bought it - but he was a lot cheaper than anywhere else I looked at). He will talk to you at any time of the day, even in the evenings etc and is always happy to give information.

If you ever wanted to navigate, you're more than welcome :) I have navigated a couple of road rallies myself and done my first stage rally navigating a few weeks back, so if you have any questions, feel free to message me!

I got a blog on here with pictures of the car, it's on this link here: http://www.micra.org.uk/threads/nissan-micra-stage-rally-car.58122/
 
Thanks for the advice, are the bc coil overs better suited to Tarmac or would they be ok for gravel as well?? I'm looking at getting some engine mountings first off from matt humphris,I'm just shopping about for suspension at the moment,
I've seen your car mike compete in Anglesey circuit and on the cambrian a couple of times, it looks a very well spec'd car.
 
I've used them on broken tarmac quite a lot, absolutely no issues what so ever.
Used them for a dirt practice session as well, really, really rough surface and abused a lot and they are still as good as new, never done anything to them after installation.
 
The BC units are probably more suited to Tarmac, but I know the guy who sells them run them on his Micras who do Tarmac and Gravel, so must be okay to use in the woods too. I can't comment on how good they are, but I did use them on a gravel section of a road rally style event and were brilliant.
 
The bc suspension will work well ob tarmac and ok-ish on gravel. For the forest rallies they'll be ok-ish too.
Springs will have to be varied to optimise them for each surface :)
 
Thanks for the replies everyone, ill have a look at possibly buying the bc suspension as a starter and then upgrading when I move onto stage rallying.
 
I've been running avo coilovers for the past three years, work really well on the whites and on tarmac. Found with doing road rally's the best money spent is on the tyre's A021r for tarmac and A035 for rougher rally's.

I'll be out this weekend on the powys lanes Buith Wells show Ground. car 25. Trying to keep with Escorts.
 
I was planning on going to watch Powys Lanes, and was going to come say hello, Gareth. But had someone come look (and buy) the Micra Road Rally car today, so not up for going there now!

I used brand new AO21s all round on the Targa Raod Rally, real good tyres to be fair. It was at a real abrasive venue, but even with my 1.3, I was on the 1.6mm limit on front when finishing the day (30 miles). I believe you'd get 2, possibly 3 road rallies out of 21s on the front, so not a huge cost (£150-ish so £50 a road rally). Plus they are E-marked, something you must run when doing welsh championship etc.
 
Thanks for the advice, I was thinking of using the ao21 as I know someone who runs then on a super s road rally car, would it be worth running the brake and fuel lines inside the car or shielding them with something??
 
Ive shielded my fuel lines under the car, and brake lines ive lest as standard for now.
Tyre wise i run Yoko A539's, been perfect for dry/damp (but not pooled water) and decent on gravel and dirt... Also cheap :)
 
Ive got 3 years in the f1000 and still competing, and would say their is no need to protect the fuel lines, ive had no problems at all and even been on gravel sections and was ok, also your tank guard :eek: its massive and must weight a ton !!!! just cut another tank In half and put it under your tank!! cheap and lightweight !
 
Huggy444 said:
Tank guards are pretty important on the really rough stuff :p oh well, i do it for fun not to wjn
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I do it for both. I hit the floor that hard off a jump a rock went through my tank guard and damn near peirced the tank...
I would rather add 5kg and finish the rally. Than be 5kg lighter and not finish at all

To finish first, first you must finish and all that ;)
 
Fibreglass tank guard is the happy medium. Lightweight, easy to repair if damaged and easy to fit. Okay, might cost a bit more, but would never do a Road Rally or any rally considered "rough" at all without one, like H701micra said :)
 

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