the sump is removed mate the metal still there is the crank case mate im sure it needs to be removed which is why the gbox needs to be removedok so some photos
here is a photo looking directly up into the engine with the sump panel removed.
the two red are bolts which we have removed as we believe these hold the timing chain cover on.
the green line is where the timing chain cover is
the blue bolt is the bolt we cant get to but and unsure if we need to remove this or not?
rest of the pics
a photo of the bolt which is blocked by metal
bolt again
oil strainer we believe the haynes manual says to remove
looking from the bottom of the engine at the timing chain cover
then my phone battery died
the haynes manual is a piece of wank, the biggest waste of £20 i ever spent. it simple says remove the bolts and remove the timing chain cover... yeah real helpful.
getting the timing chain cover off is the last part so any info or help would be really great
posted on jan 12thi doubt if you can do it without removing the intermediate sump andy (which is why you have to pull the g/box away from the engine iirc)
I have done this job on several occasions and what Frank is telling you is correct. The upper aluminium sump has to come off to releases the timing cover. Even if you did manage to get the cover off with sump on, you would damage the front of the Head Gasket and you would never get the cover back on.
You need to undo the Bellhousing bolts, push gearbox away from engine slightly, then undo all bolts from sump to remove. This is why as Belly 93 has said alot of people remove the engine to do this job. It can be done with engine in situ but be very carefull as when front engine mount is off and gearbox is un-bolted from engine only your jack will be supporting the engine and it will move around loads!
The red arrowed bolts in your pic are not timing case fixings, there just the front fixing bolts for the upper sump (one just happens to go into the timing case) The blue arrowed bolt is one of the fixings for the oil strainer (it has two) they are bolted into the bottom of the oil pump, which is part of the timing case (again access to these bolts is possible after removing upper sump)
Sorry unless you can seperate chain and feed it through as has been previously mentioned, there is no quick way of doing this.
Have you pushed the gearbox back?? It will not fully clear if the gearbox is bolted to the engine, even if it feels loose. Also sometimes they get stuck on the dipstick tube (the rubber seal goes dry and seizes in the sump.) The manifold bracket is also bolted to sump iirc so that will also need removing.
The oil stainer is bolted to the oil pump which is mounted in the front cover. It is done this way so it can be driven directly from a large keyway on the crank, instead of having a seperate chain to drive it.
my task this week is aligning the three cogs, currently they are so so far out and nothing lines up what so ever.
anyone offer any help or any tips?
the micra workshop manual makes it sound like rocket science and haynes manual makes it sound a litte easier
i align my CG,s with the lobes pointing at the side of the cap bolt (the red marks) and as long as the crank pulley is on the 2nd notch (tdc) its spot on.
but you have the vtec inlet complication too (which that guy will have sussed out i guess)
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it only shows you where to blow the airline, and what marks to line up and i,ve seen a few posts warning not to remove that pulley, else you break the mechanism inside (key the next "help me" plea )not much help but hey...
that was the page that Guy posted up in the link ffs ^ i copied it onto this thread so save you the bother of clicking on that linkah the workshop manual, i did have this but lost it when i had to reformat my laptop.
yeh, and the CG ones are 113nm (pretty tight)um so use a spanner to stop it turning then use a wrench on the bolt?
tried this today and could undo it, this is why we thought it need to be done a special way?
I believe "Full Service manual"...click on the last full stop on the home page of Guy's site....what is fsm everyone keeps refering to?