Which is better offset bushes or adjustable pan rod

[flappjak]

I'd like to get the panhard rod but it's money I don't have so I was wondering if the offset bushes someone sells on here are just as good

 

[skymera]

The offset bushes are only good if you plan on lowering about 30mm

 

[flappjak]

Yeah I plan on going lower decided to get the polo coilovers so best to get the adjustable rod and thanks for help

 

[frank]

bushes will correct 7mm of shift (14mm wheel tuck difference) and the axle shifts more to start with, then as the p/rod nears horizontal (60mm ish) it stops shifting and then shifts back the other way

 

[davyboy]

HelloFrank. You still making those Frankspeed manifolds (?) A few been asking.

 

[frank]

HelloFrank. You still making those Frankspeed manifolds (?) A few been asking.

no, retired now davy

 

[skymera]

no, retired now davy

Should have kept mine, value only up here from now

 

[flappjak]

So if I lower it quite a bit it'll sort it's self out

 

[frank]

So if I lower it quite a bit it'll sort it's self out

no, it hits the boot floor before it returns much, i,m just saying that the axle shifts a lot to begin with then shifts less and less, when the p/rod is near horizontal.
2 heavy adults in the back will drop the car 40mm anyway, so you will always suffer axle shift tbh

 

[davyboy]

no, it hits the boot floor before it returns much, i,m just saying that the axle shifts a lot to begin with then shifts less and less, when the p/rod is near horizontal.
2 heavy adults in the back will drop the car 40mm anyway, so you will always suffer axle shift tbh

Pity about retiring Frank, but that gotta be done - enjoy it buddy - I do.
You're right on the heavy boys in the back, had a couple in mine Saturday going football, bottomed out on every little bump.
But then, they are 18 stone lumps - each

 

[davyboy]

Hey Frank, can you put a picture up of one of your manifolds, I'll see if the local dockyard boys can make one.
They can do pretty much anything in the fabrication shop.

 

[frank]

Hey Frank, can you put a picture up of one of your manifolds, I'll see if the local dockyard boys can make one.
They can do pretty much anything in the fabrication shop.

here,s the bushes and some mani,s davy, there should be plenty more mani pics on here tho

 

[davyboy]

here,s the bushes and some mani,s davy, there should be plenty more mani pics on here tho

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Thank you for that Frank.
Bit of a work of art going on there Frank, is that stainless (?)

 

[frank]

Thank you for that Frank.
Bit of a work of art going on there Frank, is that stainless (?)

yes mate

 

[davyboy]

yes mate

That's good, the pipe benders down the docks will be interested in that - cheers buddy.

 

[Zazee]

Does anyone still make / sell the bushes?

 

[karlj]

Not that I've seen, Frank was the only one who did

 

[frank]

somebody should make them again, i got through about 2.5m of 40mm nylon rod ( = about 60 bushes ?)
you could bush both ends if you wanted, but 7mm of shift was usually enough, and the o/s end of a rusted-on p/rod is usually the easiest to remove

 

[h701micra]

somebody should make them again, i got through about 2.5m of 40mm nylon rod ( = about 60 bushes ?)
you could bush both ends if you wanted, but 7mm of shift was usually enough, and the o/s end of a rusted-on p/rod is usually the easiest to remove

I could make them Frank if you've a pattern piece?
I've a tonne of nylon leftover from dropping those bushes for polyurethane

 

[frank]

I could make them Frank if you've a pattern piece?
I've a tonne of nylon leftover from dropping those bushes for polyurethane

none left andy, they were a slightly tapered interference fit in the p/rod, to ensure that they did,nt turn/spin

 

[h701micra]

none left andy, they were a slightly tapered interference fit in the p/rod, to ensure that they did,nt turn/spin

Understandable. I guess the hole us simply offset and they're pressed at the end users desired angle?

 

[frank]

Understandable. I guess the hole us simply offset and they're pressed at the end users desired angle?

yes position the hole fully to the left (usually) then use the nut to squeeze the 2 halves of the bush into place ah andy

 

[h701micra]

yes position the hole fully to the left (usually) then use the nut to squeeze the 2 halves of the bush into place ah andy

Simple enough

Shame you've retired from it but it's well deserved

Off-topic I know
I'm about to build and oversized kart (side by side) so I may require your knowledge/opinion on parts