London Ultra Low Emissions Zone ULEZ
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it's looking to be worse than that. having placed cameras everywhere illegally makes it seem it was planned all along..any anti ulezy petition going on? hitler was said to have lost WW2 certainly doesn't look like the good team won at all. just being honest as usual. obviously means standing alone with no useless weight.
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I know this is a delayed response, but any help is appreciated. Did you ever get your certificate of conformity from Nissan, and we're the NOx emissions below the ULEZ limit? I have a 1.3 1999 Micra K 11, so was thinking if yours passed it would be worth me getting in touch with Nissan. Thanks for the helpful posts
Yes I did - please see the earlier answers in the thread. I got the cert from Nissan free of charge, sent it to TFL, and bingo I'm legal. Do it!
I did - please see earlier answers in this thread. I got the cert from Nissan free of charge in the end, showed it to TFL and bingo I'm approved and driving. Do it!
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Thanks Dandan, I saw that you had got the exemption, well done, and thanks for starting this post. I was actually asking the other person, kozmicsoup, with the 1998 Micra, as theirs is a year older than mine, a 1999 model. Anyway, I've filled in the application for the certificate of confirmation and emailed all the documents off to Nissan , so I'll wait and see . Once again, thanks for giving me the idea of checking, I'll be so sad if I have to scrap the car, but at least I'll know I tried. I'll put an update on when I find out. They said it might take a month.
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Hi again,
I got the certificate of conformity from Nissan (attached the relevant section), but it only shows the figure for HC +NOx, not the NOx figure. I'm not sure how to work out or demonstrate NOx, has anyone had any success if the certificate only shows the combined figure??? Thanks
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London ULEZ Compliance Quick Check Your Vehicle.
Quickest five minute way to check your vehicle compliance is to use the tfl “pay to drive In London” website, simply put your reg no in.
Vehicle details - Transport for London (tfl.gov.uk)
This immediately confirmed that my 25 year old 1998 K11 Micra Equation is compliant & no charges applicable with no run around compliance certificates required. Simple.
No need for a modern replacement BS vehicle, just get it on with the K11 tin tart that I already have.
Cheap good to go K11. Happy days.
Quickest five minute way to check your vehicle compliance is to use the tfl “pay to drive In London” website, simply put your reg no in.
Vehicle details - Transport for London (tfl.gov.uk)
This immediately confirmed that my 25 year old 1998 K11 Micra Equation is compliant & no charges applicable with no run around compliance certificates required. Simple.
No need for a modern replacement BS vehicle, just get it on with the K11 tin tart that I already have.
Cheap good to go K11. Happy days.
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Congratulations for being allowed to keep your Micra running. I'm very surprised it is compliant on the tfl vehicle checker, as mine is a year newer than yours but is shown as non compliant. Have you got a 1.0 litre? Mine is 1.3, maybe that explains it. Anyway, I'm happy for you, but looks like I'll be buying a new car unfortunately.London ULEZ Compliance Quick Check Your Vehicle.
Quickest five minute way to check your vehicle compliance is to use the tfl “pay to drive In London” website, simply put your reg no in.
Vehicle details - Transport for London (tfl.gov.uk)
This immediately confirmed that my 25 year old 1998 K11 Micra Equation is compliant & no charges applicable with no run around compliance certificates required. Simple.
No need for a modern replacement BS vehicle, just get it on with the K11 tin tart that I already have.
Cheap good to go K11. Happy days.
My K11 Tin Tart is a 1300cc Equation base model S reg. August1998 facelift. I just put in the full reg. no & instant response came back compliant & exempt ULEZ charge!
The web site states that status can update change & perhaps therefore you may try your number again?
Good luck
The web site states that status can update change & perhaps therefore you may try your number again?
Good luck
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Hi, mine is a T reg 1999, and is still showing as non compliant on the checker. I'm happy for you, but surprised yours is compliant. Lucky you!My K11 Tin Tart is a 1300cc Equation base model S reg. August1998 facelift. I just put in the full reg. no & instant response came back compliant & exempt ULEZ charge!
The web site states that status can update change & perhaps therefore you may try your number again?
Good luck
Many thanks.
However irony is that I live 150 miles from the smoke city & am not remotely inclined to drive in there again.
I put my reg. no into the tfl. site this evening to double check & comes up exempt every time, which tends to rule out an anomaly outlier result or error? ( 9 March 2023 )
Can we cross check & ask if there is anyone else in the MSC with a 1998/99 face lift K11 who could check their car reg. no. on tfl in the same way without Nissan emissions data compliance certificates? ?
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We have a 2002 1litre. This is exempt from London Ulez and we are only a few miles from the proposed zone.
As Micra Paul says it's BS people having to buy a new vehicle to drive within the zones.
Cars from 2006 should be euro4 the minimum for the zone, Nissan were ahead of the game here with later K11's.
Tradesmen with vans, larger vehicles will require later vehicles.
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I couldn't agree more. Once the zone expands in August I will be living inside it, so unfortunately I will have no option but to get rid of a perfectly good micra. I got it second-hand in 2004 and it's served me very well ever since! I'm glad you don't have to replace yours.
Hi, I just wondered whether you had any luck getting the MIcra ULEZ exempt? I have a 1998 1.3 Micra with same figures as you HC+NOX: 0.234. This is surely to high to get through isn't it?
Hi, my 1998 1.3 Micra Si comes up as NOT ULEZ compliant. I sent off for the Certificate Of Conformity to hopefully get mine exempt, but the figures comes back as HC+NOX : 0.234, so going by this the NOX level alone won't be down as the 0.08 level requires.
Our age cars are classed as EURO 2 instead of the later K11's get a EURO 3.
I'm very sad about this, as it was my late fathers car, has only 35k miles on it as well.
Hi Dan, you said in an earlier post that a 1999 Micra won't get an exemption, so why are you saying these figures will? Mine is showing this same figure 0.234g/km for combined HC+NOX and therefore is EURO 2, so how can this be ok?
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I checked with Nissan to see if they could supply a NOx only figure, but they can't due to the age of the car (1999) , so I have unfortunately accepted that I will have to sell or scrap it, which is very sad, Ive been driving it since 2004. I'm glad I tried though. Maybe ULEZ might get delayed, I doubt it but still hoping!!
As we already have the Certificate Of Conformity I wonder whether it's worth just sending it through to TFL just in case it somehow goes through, & they don't scrutinise the numbers closely? You never know, last ditch attempt.
Go for it guys & try try again
I put my reg. no into the tfl. site this afternoon to triple check & it comes up exempt every time, which tends to rule out an anomaly outlier result or error? ( 18 March 2023 )
Perhaps it may be a useful to apply for ULEZ exemption by sending your existing Nissan Compliance Certificates together with a brief covering letter in big clear type that the Nissan Certificate confirms ULEZ compliance in the hope that it may be automatically processed through?
What you don’t ask for you don’t get & you cannot foretell how any indeterminate proposition will turn out until it does.
I put my reg. no into the tfl. site this afternoon to triple check & it comes up exempt every time, which tends to rule out an anomaly outlier result or error? ( 18 March 2023 )
Perhaps it may be a useful to apply for ULEZ exemption by sending your existing Nissan Compliance Certificates together with a brief covering letter in big clear type that the Nissan Certificate confirms ULEZ compliance in the hope that it may be automatically processed through?
What you don’t ask for you don’t get & you cannot foretell how any indeterminate proposition will turn out until it does.
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Nothing to lose I suppose, but I doubt it would work. I might give it a go ....
My K11 cheap Tin Tart & I will continue our journeys together till death us do part.
Always look on the right side of life & go for it.
Always look on the right side of life & go for it.
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The other annoying thing is, a neighbour near to me has a 1967 Dodge Charger, & that's ULEZ exempt just because it's more than 50yrs old. So he can effectively drive into central London everyday in his big gas guzzling American muscle car, but we can't with our little 1.3 Micra. Something ain't right is it?
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I totally agree
Regret Khan Mayor of London also self-appointed chairman TFL and chairman C40 cities. Too much power for a tyrant.
London ULEZ Scrappage Scheme.
ULEZ cloud has silver lining chance to get payed up to £2K to scrap the old banger & upgrade to a newer vehicle.
The .gov budget is limited to £110M so jump in quick as he who hesitates will find the limited budget quickly consumed & out of funds.
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth & fill your boots while the car upgrade going is good! Good luck all.
Search:
duckduckgo.com
ww.london.gov.uk/biggest-ever-vehicle-scrappage-scheme-launched-mayor-help-businesses-charities-low-income-and
ULEZ cloud has silver lining chance to get payed up to £2K to scrap the old banger & upgrade to a newer vehicle.
The .gov budget is limited to £110M so jump in quick as he who hesitates will find the limited budget quickly consumed & out of funds.
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth & fill your boots while the car upgrade going is good! Good luck all.
Search:
Mr Khan has launched a multi-million pound scrappage scheme at DuckDuckGo
DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.
ww.london.gov.uk/biggest-ever-vehicle-scrappage-scheme-launched-mayor-help-businesses-charities-low-income-and
My humble opinion Accept this ULEZ extension And you put yourself under their control forever
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Hi , thanks for posting. Unfortunately it won't help me, or most people I know, as you can't claim anything if you are working and not claiming benefits. The irony there is that I mainly use the car for work, and if I wasn't working I could probably manage without it.....London ULEZ Scrappage Scheme.
ULEZ cloud has silver lining chance to get payed up to £2K to scrap the old banger & upgrade to a newer vehicle.
The .gov budget is limited to £110M so jump in quick as he who hesitates will find the limited budget quickly consumed & out of funds.
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth & fill your boots while the car upgrade going is good! Good luck all.
Search:
Mr Khan has launched a multi-million pound scrappage scheme at DuckDuckGo
DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.
ww.london.gov.uk/biggest-ever-vehicle-scrappage-scheme-launched-mayor-help-businesses-charities-low-income-and
“New ULEZ scrappage scheme will support Londoners on certain low income or disability benefits, and eligible micro businesses (up to 10 employees), sole traders and charities with a registered address in London”.
Applies to ULEZ non-compliant motor cycles,vans,cars & commercial vehicles & those most affected due low incomes & self-employment status.
The children living in The Smoke City & their children’s children deserve cleaner less polluted air instead of pollution induced propensity to lifelong asthma breathlessness.
Search ULEZ Scrappage Terms & Conditions. Good luck all.
Scrappage scheme - Transport for London (tfl.gov.uk)
Applies to ULEZ non-compliant motor cycles,vans,cars & commercial vehicles & those most affected due low incomes & self-employment status.
The children living in The Smoke City & their children’s children deserve cleaner less polluted air instead of pollution induced propensity to lifelong asthma breathlessness.
Search ULEZ Scrappage Terms & Conditions. Good luck all.
Scrappage scheme - Transport for London (tfl.gov.uk)
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As of today:
'London Mayor Sadiq Khan's proposed expansion of the Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) is under threat after the High Court today ruled a challenge can go to trial'
So don't be to hasty in selling your pride and joys yet there may be a reprieve here.
'London Mayor Sadiq Khan's proposed expansion of the Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) is under threat after the High Court today ruled a challenge can go to trial'
So don't be to hasty in selling your pride and joys yet there may be a reprieve here.
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Blimey, I don't believe it, as I reluctantly bought a newer Micra k13 2 days ago and now in the process of selling my beloved k11. I hope ULEZ is delayed for everyone else's sake though. Ps, if anyone wants to buy a 1999 Micra I'm selling .....!!
I like others here have had a trusty 1999 1.3 (1275cc) Micra Inspiration for the past 19 years. It only 90k on the clock and is still purring along. Thanks to the London Mayor's undemocratic Ulez expansion imposed for disingenuous and fake reasons. I am also being forced to scrap this plucky car. It is a disgrace. I too also applied to Nissan for Cert of Conformity and it also only showed a combined figure for HC+NOx of 0.234. Has anyone been able to get around this as one earlier reply suggested that they were able to? Any ideas? Or is it possible to upgrade the cat as I know the post 2001 k11 Micras are compliant.
Otherwise it is such a waste of a faithful servant that still has a lot of miles left in it.
Steve
Hornchurch Essex.
Otherwise it is such a waste of a faithful servant that still has a lot of miles left in it.
Steve
Hornchurch Essex.
I have a 1998 kll 1.3i and just received the CofC from Nissan which also shows a combined figure for HC +NOx of 0.234 g/km but no figure for NOx alone. Has anyone asked Nissan to provide an NOx figure alone? Or is the HC+NOx combined figure enough for the Mayor's office to provide an exemption?
The CO figure for my Micra is 0.410 which is much lower than the 0.614 figure DanDan mentioned above as being well within the ULEZ requirements.
I don't know about upgrades, but presumably they can be done on Micras too. I think it says on the email I received from the Mayor's office that grants are available to those eligible to pay for upgrades kits (probably for scouts clubs, OAP homes, etc., rather than average Joe) which suggests upgrades are feasible at least.
The CO figure for my Micra is 0.410 which is much lower than the 0.614 figure DanDan mentioned above as being well within the ULEZ requirements.
I don't know about upgrades, but presumably they can be done on Micras too. I think it says on the email I received from the Mayor's office that grants are available to those eligible to pay for upgrades kits (probably for scouts clubs, OAP homes, etc., rather than average Joe) which suggests upgrades are feasible at least.
Agreed, the real issue is not whether you car complies with the standard or not, but that the ULEZ zone for taxing driving has been expanded massively. Eventually, all will pay, regardless of vehicle type, which may or may not be a good thing, depending on your opinion. But to imagine in future the charging shall only be aimed at those vehicles deemed not compliant currently will likely prove false.
I have a 1998 kll 1.3i and just received the CofC from Nissan which also shows a combined figure for HC +NOx of 0.234 g/km but no figure for NOx alone. Has anyone asked Nissan to provide an NOx figure alone? Or is the HC+NOx combined figure enough for the Mayor's office to provide an exemption?
According to the CofC, the CO figure for my Micra is 0.410 which is much lower than the 0.614 figure DanDan mentioned above as being well within the ULEZ requirements, assuming a similar ratio.
I don't know about upgrades, but presumably they can be done on Micras too. I think it says on the email I received from the Mayor's office that grants are available to those eligible to for upgrade kits.
Nope it isnt, it's favouring the rich and spendy - buy a new car and or keep your classic, but then those living in London should mass protest against Mr Khan (do what I like) and the deal he had with the government over ULEZ. You'd think paying your Road * Fuel taxes shgould be enough to let you drive your car on all non private roads without 2nd or 3rd levels of taxation.
Failing that for all 'unsuitable' cars remove the vin and engine number and just leave them outside his home and workplace?
Could also ask the mayor how scrapping perfectly useable vehicles is ecologically sound?
And since when has any government/council department actually botherd with practical facts and details, e.g. actual levels of 'pollution', or applied them consitantly e.g. for all commercial or 'public' and of course 'emergency' vehicles., I'm sure they work on there's no 'u' in hipocracy.
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I noted that in DanDan's epic and excellent stream of messages in 2019/20 he mentioned the following logic based on the ratio of the combined HC&NOx Cert of Conformity .
See it says 235 for THC+NOX together. For my model it's 64THC +28NOX = 92.
If the ratio is the same, 235 = 163+72, 72 still below the limit 80.
So phone Nissan customer services 0330 123 1231, send the form attached to [email protected].
good luck
Has anyone been able to take this ratio theory forward in order to extract a verifiable NOx figure as he suggested. It would be excellent if it could be done and would mean salvation! I would love it......but maybe am a bit too hopeful.
Hi Dandan. I am walking in your footsteps all these years later. I loved your exchange of posts reading them now in Sept 2023. I, like above, have a Cert of Conformity back for my 1999 Micra that has the above combined total for HC & NOx of 235. I obviously would be very pleased if your ratio comparison was recognised as suggested showing NOx at 72. Do you have any more info/thoughts on if or how this could be ratified? I've had my 1.3 Micra for 19 years, only 90k on the clock, still purring along and a lot more miles in it. I am dragging my feet on scrapping it, such a waste. I would appreciate your wisdom, or anyone elses, if you are still on here.
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