EPS Power steering column, what ACTUALLY goes wrong?
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Yeah, at some point the eps will become a hard fault and you won’t be able to reset. Obviously it’s currently an intermittent fault. If you’re keeping the car it maybe worth changing. Otherwise the car is becoming more less economical to repair these days so maybe not worth it!
Let me know if you need an eps, I’ll be able to help you out so it’s a straight swap without getting the NATs issue, but I would advise to sort your engine light out first though.
Let me know if you need an eps, I’ll be able to help you out so it’s a straight swap without getting the NATs issue, but I would advise to sort your engine light out first though.
Hi Jason. I have the same problem with the power steering. Sometimes I get the red light, but almost always the steering wheel is stiff at first. Not really sure how or why, but sometimes it works okay after a while, like if I drive for a bit and start it up again. Do you think you could help me? I'm in Doncaster but wouldn't mind the drive to Birmingham
sure, though I need to fix something else at it first; maybe you could have a look in a couple weeks?
Edit: the steering drive gave in yesterday. As a tried to steer with no PS the steering wheel gave out and just didn't connect with the car wheels anymore. I had to spin it one way for about 20 seconds before the wheels would turn too. Had a mechanic look it up today and there's nothing he can do since it's an electrical problem. So it's not really safe to drive so I can't come your way anymore in the near future at least :/
Edit: the steering drive gave in yesterday. As a tried to steer with no PS the steering wheel gave out and just didn't connect with the car wheels anymore. I had to spin it one way for about 20 seconds before the wheels would turn too. Had a mechanic look it up today and there's nothing he can do since it's an electrical problem. So it's not really safe to drive so I can't come your way anymore in the near future at least :/
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That’s really unusual, there is a mechanic link on the steering. The steering is powered ASSIST, but there is a direct link between the steering wheel and steering rack. You have something else happening here! Sounds like someone has messed with the system and got it ‘really’ wrong!
Seems likely. The Halfords mechanic mentioned that there was some evidence of somebody messing with it in the past. I'm surprised the steering wheel even works now tbh since the connection to the wheels was somehow interrupted (luckily I was just trying to leave the parking space and wasn't actually driving). The wheel is just in a wrong position now (basically upside down) and it needs tracking, but it the wheels turn just fine when I steer. I'm obviously not gonna try driving it around town tho.
Sorry to jump on this thread but I get the NATS light on after about 5 minutes of driving. The PS unit was replaced maybe 3 years ago and this has been happening since. Can I get this resolved anyway. I am on N.Ireland and panicking of my battery dies I will be stranded
I can only fix it by either plugging into the car or the unit it self. I cannot fix remotely sorry.
Hi mate any luck with the sourcing of suitably replacement units ?
@huttojb my EPS has failed intermittently over the past year or so, returning after clearing the fault each time. I'd like to bite the bullet and replace it. My K12 Micra only has 25K miles on the clock so I'd like to keep it running for a few more years.
Please let me know if you can help. I am based in London.
Please let me know if you can help. I am based in London.
I am in the same boat As you mate..located west of London .. @huttojb (hope he can can assist us..)
Reply to you dm.
@huttojb , need help with PS. Im from durham. Can you help?
Wolverhampton
Hi Huttojb ive been trying to find out how to get in touch with you regarding a k12 eps problem with immobiliser, im really stuck and would more than appreciate some guidance, please could you email me at [email protected] thankyou James.
I’ve sent my mobile number over on a direct message
Hi @huttojb
Really hoping you could help, I have an 2006 K12, I had my power steering go before and ended up temporarily fixing the issue by putting an 06 steering column in, from a scrapyard Micra. This fixed my power steering for about 5 months (with a weird NATS light that would come on after a few miles or so) until last week it started being intermittent and then the ps light stayed on.
Went back to the garage they said it's the motor, but I believe it's something contributing to it, as it's happened on my original unit and also the replacement scrapyard one. They cleared my codes and shes working again for now but I feel like it's only a matter of time until the light will come back on.
Would you be able to help? I'm based in Manchester but have family in Wolverhampton so could travel to Birmingham if you think it could be fixed.
Many thanks,
April
Really hoping you could help, I have an 2006 K12, I had my power steering go before and ended up temporarily fixing the issue by putting an 06 steering column in, from a scrapyard Micra. This fixed my power steering for about 5 months (with a weird NATS light that would come on after a few miles or so) until last week it started being intermittent and then the ps light stayed on.
Went back to the garage they said it's the motor, but I believe it's something contributing to it, as it's happened on my original unit and also the replacement scrapyard one. They cleared my codes and shes working again for now but I feel like it's only a matter of time until the light will come back on.
Would you be able to help? I'm based in Manchester but have family in Wolverhampton so could travel to Birmingham if you think it could be fixed.
Many thanks,
April
@huttojb , I have the same issues as most people, ps light on all the time and no assisted steering. Took our 54 plate k12 to garage who couldn't find fault codes although the on board dash computer shows ps fault!
I see you were trying to source replacement eps units to clear codes.
Can you assist please as the cars only done 40,000.
I can't pm you as new to forum.
Thanks in anticipation.
Gary
I see you were trying to source replacement eps units to clear codes.
Can you assist please as the cars only done 40,000.
I can't pm you as new to forum.
Thanks in anticipation.
Gary
Hi how can I get hold of you have a power steering fault I can be found at [email protected]
Hi Guys,
I'm new on here so please bear with me.
I have a similar issue to the rest of you guys.
I have a nissan micra k12 1,2 sport on a 56 plate
I have been trawling the internet for second hand unit for EPAS control unit and motor.
I note that there seems to be multiple part units used for the lifespan of this model.
My question is do I need to have a unit with the exact same part number or will any unit for any nissan micra k12 do the job.
Also am I better getting a second hand part or getting someone like acspowersteering to refurbish my existing unit.
I can easily get a second hand unit but finding it hard to source one with the same part number.
I hope someone can offer advice on this.
I attach photo of unit showing part number for info.
Also are the connectors the same on the different partnumbers. Partnumbers Ive come across used on this model are
48810AX605, 48810AX600, 48810BC00A
I'm new on here so please bear with me.
I have a similar issue to the rest of you guys.
I have a nissan micra k12 1,2 sport on a 56 plate
I have been trawling the internet for second hand unit for EPAS control unit and motor.
I note that there seems to be multiple part units used for the lifespan of this model.
My question is do I need to have a unit with the exact same part number or will any unit for any nissan micra k12 do the job.
Also am I better getting a second hand part or getting someone like acspowersteering to refurbish my existing unit.
I can easily get a second hand unit but finding it hard to source one with the same part number.
I hope someone can offer advice on this.
I attach photo of unit showing part number for info.
Also are the connectors the same on the different partnumbers. Partnumbers Ive come across used on this model are
48810AX605, 48810AX600, 48810BC00A
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Greetings, fellow Nissan Micra K12 owners,
I've been digging extensively into the persistent power steering (PS) issue plaguing Micra K12 owners and wanted to share some insights and seek advice. In my home country, there used to be an old ECU expert who could fix these PS columns, but he stopped due to the recurring nature of the problem.
According to this ECU expert, the PS issue might be linked to the battery/alternator system. His theory suggests that the PS column ECU is highly sensitive to voltage fluctuations. We managed to temporarily resolve the problem by resetting the c1606 and c1608 error codes and installing a new fully charged battery (VARTA SILVER Dynamic 52Ah, 12V, C6). Additionally we triplechecked all electrical connections, soldered on some new contact surfaces for fuses etc. However, the error codes recently returned. Our battery, without a load, after the error codes returned measures 12.4V, which corresponds to 50% charge according to the manual of the battery. Our ECU expert believes this could be the root cause, as the PS ECU is according to him susceptible to battery glitches during periods of lower charge.
I'd like to continue investigating this theory by resetting the c1606 and c1608 codes again, then monitoring the battery's state of charge closely after installing a new alternator. Unfortunately, the ECU expert does not want to participate in this anymore and told us to go to Nissan to get teh errors erased. I plan to do so but anticipate potential challenges, including high costs or suggestions for a costly column replacement.
Now, my primary question is: Is there a way to reset the c1606 and C1608 codes ourselves so that we can continue using the car and gather data to support or refute our voltage glitch theory?
Additionally, should not we initiate class action lawsuit agains Nissan? I think it is absolutely clear that this must be a design flaw judging by the sheer amounts of people plagued by this issue. I suspect they just want to sell their PS column replacements...
Any advice, insights, or shared experiences would be greatly appreciated.
I've been digging extensively into the persistent power steering (PS) issue plaguing Micra K12 owners and wanted to share some insights and seek advice. In my home country, there used to be an old ECU expert who could fix these PS columns, but he stopped due to the recurring nature of the problem.
According to this ECU expert, the PS issue might be linked to the battery/alternator system. His theory suggests that the PS column ECU is highly sensitive to voltage fluctuations. We managed to temporarily resolve the problem by resetting the c1606 and c1608 error codes and installing a new fully charged battery (VARTA SILVER Dynamic 52Ah, 12V, C6). Additionally we triplechecked all electrical connections, soldered on some new contact surfaces for fuses etc. However, the error codes recently returned. Our battery, without a load, after the error codes returned measures 12.4V, which corresponds to 50% charge according to the manual of the battery. Our ECU expert believes this could be the root cause, as the PS ECU is according to him susceptible to battery glitches during periods of lower charge.
I'd like to continue investigating this theory by resetting the c1606 and c1608 codes again, then monitoring the battery's state of charge closely after installing a new alternator. Unfortunately, the ECU expert does not want to participate in this anymore and told us to go to Nissan to get teh errors erased. I plan to do so but anticipate potential challenges, including high costs or suggestions for a costly column replacement.
Now, my primary question is: Is there a way to reset the c1606 and C1608 codes ourselves so that we can continue using the car and gather data to support or refute our voltage glitch theory?
Additionally, should not we initiate class action lawsuit agains Nissan? I think it is absolutely clear that this must be a design flaw judging by the sheer amounts of people plagued by this issue. I suspect they just want to sell their PS column replacements...
Any advice, insights, or shared experiences would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Jason, I have the ps light on Micra 2004.
Kindly if you can assist?
My number is 07862159075
Thanks
Hi, I had the ubiquitous power steering failure and had been driving the awful car without assistance for 9 months, but as it looked like I'd be sadly keeping it a while longer, the steering needed sorting for the MOT.
In the end I came across Nissan Data Scan 3, its a simple program that offers full dealer level diagnosis and code reading but only costs £30 and uses a £17 VAG K+CAN cable. The support for the k12 on the website is almost non existence but I can confirm that it does work.
With the software I read and cleared the codes and the power steering is now working fine. Obviously this wont resolve every problem and mine might go again, the relays are noisy, but I can easily clear the codes again myself.
In the end I came across Nissan Data Scan 3, its a simple program that offers full dealer level diagnosis and code reading but only costs £30 and uses a £17 VAG K+CAN cable. The support for the k12 on the website is almost non existence but I can confirm that it does work.
NDS III – Windows PC - Nisscan
The NDS III software is intended for the latest generation Nissan and Infiniti cars build after year 2008. They are equipped with a 16 pin OBDII connecter and use a Consult III protocol over a CAN bus.
nisscan.com
With the software I read and cleared the codes and the power steering is now working fine. Obviously this wont resolve every problem and mine might go again, the relays are noisy, but I can easily clear the codes again myself.
Hey buddy, how has the car been since you cleared the fault with program??Hi, I had the ubiquitous power steering failure and had been driving the awful car without assistance for 9 months, but as it looked like I'd be sadly keeping it a while longer, the steering needed sorting for the MOT.
In the end I came across Nissan Data Scan 3, its a simple program that offers full dealer level diagnosis and code reading but only costs £30 and uses a £17 VAG K+CAN cable. The support for the k12 on the website is almost non existence but I can confirm that it does work.
NDS III – Windows PC - Nisscan
The NDS III software is intended for the latest generation Nissan and Infiniti cars build after year 2008. They are equipped with a 16 pin OBDII connecter and use a Consult III protocol over a CAN bus.nisscan.com
With the software I read and cleared the codes and the power steering is now working fine. Obviously this wont resolve every problem and mine might go again, the relays are noisy, but I can easily clear the codes again myself.
Hi huttjob my nissan micra k12 with ps on dashboard ,,garage fixed with a refurbished steering column 18 months ago with no issues but now error come back and steering is stiff
Its been fine so far but we'll see, I can always reset it again though.
Hi @huttojb,
I have the same problem as others. The PS light is on, and the power steering is not working. Can I get your advice on this? Since I'm new to the group, I can't pm you. If you don't mind, can you email me at [email protected]
Thanks.
Anwar
