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Sdperkins said:
Fair enough. Would you say they have lots of travel? If they do, I might go for something a tad bit soft than what I'm running atm maybe 600-800lb? I guess I can only try but its an expensive route :eek:
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Not lots of travel but just enough :)
You can do but I'd still recommend you go get it corner weighted so it can be setup properly. So you'll get the right spring weights. I can help where I can but without knowing the cars weight I'm stuck
 
h701micra said:
Not lots of travel but just enough :)
You can do but I'd still recommend you go get it corner weighted so it can be setup properly. So you'll get the right spring weights. I can help where I can but without knowing the cars weight I'm stuck
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I'm not really sure what corner weighted really is but is that something any garage can do? And is it an expensive process?
 
Sdperkins said:
I'm not really sure what corner weighted really is but is that something any garage can do? And is it an expensive process?
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Not any garage can do it because you need the scales and a bloke with an IQ in triple figures

Corner weighting is where;
1 - The car gets weighed on a set of unique scales
2 - Then measure the weight of each corner
3 - Coilovers are adjusted so the weight is balanced over all 4 corners
4 - Ratios are calculated and weights noted. Spring rates are calculated from there as a raw handling progressive.
5 - Shock adjustments then fine tune the motion of the springs to optimise grip :)
6 - repeat 4&5 as necessary to satisfy driving style and use
 
watch the elise/exige episode of wheeler dealers, Ed China does it on that program and explains it in double digit IQ language ;)
 
h701micra said:
Not any garage can do it because you need the scales and a bloke with an IQ in triple figures

Corner weighting is where;
1 - The car gets weighed on a set of unique scales
2 - Then measure the weight of each corner
3 - Coilovers are adjusted so the weight is balanced over all 4 corners
4 - Ratios are calculated and weights noted. Spring rates are calculated from there as a raw handling progressive.
5 - Shock adjustments then fine tune the motion of the springs to optimise grip :)
6 - repeat 4&5 as necessary to satisfy driving style and use
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Yeah I can understand that. Will have to do some research to where this can be done ;) Cheers once again for all the help.
Went out today for a real drive, first since I've had the coilovers on and the parcel shelf popped right off after a bump in the road :p
Think I'm gonna do my back in! Although I have noticed that the front feels completely fine with how it is, however the rear seems to take a beating with any bump. At the moment from what I can feel when driving its the rear thats to solid, went over a speed bump at 5mph and that was still to much!!! :confused:
 
Because the rear of your car is almost half the weight of the front so doesn't have the weight to compress the spring... so you get bump bash smash :p
 
h701micra said:
Because the rear of your car is almost half the weight of the front so doesn't have the weight to compress the spring... so you get bump bash smash :p
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Haha yeah I can't believe I didn't even think of that. Now you said it I feel stupid :oops: haha.
Now because of that silly comment I may just start with the rear if I can't find anywhere close to me that will do the corner weights
 
Sdperkins said:
Haha yeah I can't believe I didn't even think of that. Now you said it I feel stupid :oops: haha.
Now because of that silly comment I may just start with the rear if I can't find anywhere close to me that will do the corner weights
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Don't worry about it. I've not met anyone yet that has worked that out

Good lucl finding a place. If not I'll help where I can :)

Scrapyard as strange as it sounds. Put it on their weight bridge and just ask for the weight of your car
Can help more then :)
 
h701micra said:
Don't worry about it. I've not met anyone yet that has worked that out

Good lucl finding a place. If not I'll help where I can :)

Scrapyard as strange as it sounds. Put it on their weight bridge and just ask for the weight of your car
Can help more then :)
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Ok will give that a shot if I can't find anything. Cheers matey ;)
 
Sorry to be a pain guys...
I had a misunderstanding with the units on the springs, I overheard they were measured in lbs which I was lead to believe but in-fact I now believe they are measured in N/m meaning that each spring is around 752 lbs/ft. So I'm guessing those helper springs will be measured in the same way totaling at 73 lbs/ft. But I need to double check this so don't take my word.
I haven't been able to find anything close to be in terms of corner weighting and same goes for weighing the car.
With that being said I was thinking of buying a pair of 350 lbs springs and trying them on the rear and if I find them to stiff to stick them on the front and go for something softer on the rear.
Also I'm not sure if its down to new spring or maybe a bad job of the coilovers being put in (had someone do it for me as I didn't have the tools) but the rear is squeaky as f**k!!!! Only the rear, any ideas?
 
h701micra said:
As for your springs I've never known springs be measured in Nm.
Only lb/in and kg/mm
Helper springs are usually 100lb/in
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Well thats what the engineers told me :confused: I need to check the paper work and see if it says what units it is. And how could I fix the squeaky noise from the rear, just worried it might be damaging something
 
1 N/m = 9810kg/mm, doesn't seem right somehow! And Nm is a moment not a spring constant...
Edit: Realised my mistake, corrected in a later post!
 
Sdperkins said:
Well thats what the engineers told me :confused: I need to check the paper work and see if it says what units it is. And how could I fix the squeaky noise from the rear, just worried it might be damaging something
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Engineers may measure them in Nm.. that's the standard physics measurements I think

But in terms of what I use em for they're never measured in Nm... but if that's right it could change a few things... I only tested the shocks (amateur mistake)

How is the rear mounted?
 
Enuo said:
1N/m = 9.81kg/m
9.81kg/m = 0.00981kg/mm [1000th the unit, 1000th the number :)]
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That was easier
 
Haha you guys going back and forth :D
Erm haven't really had a good look but it looks like its using the old rubbers and just that nut on the top? I may be wrong, is there another way its meant to be mounted? I'm guessing its the same way the stock suspension unit was held there?
 
Sdperkins said:
Haha you guys going back and forth :D
Erm haven't really had a good look but it looks like its using the old rubbers and just that nut on the top? I may be wrong, is there another way its meant to be mounted? I'm guessing its the same way the stock suspension unit was held there?
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Mine has the top cup, nut, old rubber (mount in place) another rubber, cap and nut

I think :p
 
Sdperkins said:
It did :) I will try and have a look tomorrow how the rear suspension is holding otherwise do you think I should go back to the engineer that done it for me and get it looked at? Coz it is bloody annoying!!
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If you've paid to have it done... take it back and get what you paid for :)
 
Got my car seen to. Found out its the shocks themselves that are causing the squeaking noises. Running a little dry I was told. Added some WD-40 to them and its back to being silent :)
 
Sdperkins said:
Got my car seen to. Found out its the shocks themselves that are causing the squeaking noises. Running a little dry I was told. Added some WD-40 to them and its back to being silent :)
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If a shock was running dry it would be knackeredddddd :p
Sounds like your seals have dried out
Get some grease put on em :)
 

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