Scratch Repair

Just hoping for some advice about repairing scratches I have a 6 month old micra in flame red. I pulled in too close to a wall today and didn't see a big sharp stone sticking out which I knocked out of the wall. I have white scratches on the side of the front bumper and some buckled bits. :( I was wondering if it is OK to use Turtle Wax Color Magic Plus on this? I'm just not sure as you know how the paint is kind of plastic. fwn
 
Noooo

Halfords Colour Match Specialist, seen yesterday...
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(before anyone kicks off, I've worked there so I'm entitled to slate the company!)

Basically if the scratches are like an opaque grey then you might have just scuffed the laquer and there is a good chance they can be flatted and polished out (using something like P2000 wet and dry and then Farecla G6 Rapid cutting compound, probably best left to a professional as its easy to burn through)
If the scratches are thick, deep (if you can feel them when you rub your nail over them) and bright white then you have gone down to the primer and the bumper will need repainting. You might (depending on the location of the scratches) be able to get away with a blow in and only have to have half the bumper painted (I suspect this is the case as it sounds like you've just caught the side)

The turtlewax stuff really won't help, and the halfords touch up kit will be miles out. If you want a touch up bottle for the DIY option you are best off calling in at a local motor factors that supplies paint or going to a bodyshop. Some colours have a number of different shades and sometimes different companies products will give a better colour match. (At work we have two waterbase mixing schemes in house and still sometimes get our supplier to send down a different brand to our scheme if the match for that particular shade is better)

Hope this helps.

Scotty
www.paintperfectlincoln.com

Edit: To answer the last question: the paint is the same on the bumpers as it is on the bodywork, sometimes a plasticizer is needed to make the paint more flexible but this is only rarely used in certain specific applications and won't be the case for your bumpers
 
Fixing Scratches
You don't need fancy tools to distinguish a scratch from a mark. A fingernail drawn over the surface at 90 degrees to the defect will tell you if it's gouged into the paint or sitting on top of it. If it's a mark that appears to be from rubber, plastic or even other paint, it may come off easily with an aerosol tar or adhesive remover. Stubborn marks often can be removed with acetone or lacquer thinner on a soft rag. If the mark is still there after using one of these solvents, try hand rubbing or polishing compound. First, clean the area with soap and water, then spread rubbing compound on the mark and rub the area in a circular motion until the mark disappears. Once it's gone, switch to a back-and-forth motion to remove circular buffing marks. Buff the area with a clean cloth to remove rubbing compound. Then, using a fresh pad, clean the area with polishing compound to remove the fine scratches left by the rubbing compound. Finish by sealing the surface with a good car wax.

If the defect is a scratch, determine if it extends below the surface of the paint and into the primer. Sometimes one end of the scratch looks fine but the other end gets deeper and deeper until it breaks through into the primer and the metal underneath. How much of that scratch is below the color? If it's a small portion of the entire scratch, you may want to repair what you can, and just try to ignore the rest until you're prepared to repaint the panel.

Modern cars are almost always clearcoated over the color layer of the paint. This is done to provide a shinier finish, as well as to prevent ultraviolet light from fading the pigment underneath it.

Scratches in clearcoat can similarly be sanded out. However, if you sand completely through the clear into the color underneath, you have to respray the clear on that panel. That's still easier than trying to match the color of the original paint, spraying the panel and then clearÂ#coating over it. If the scratch goes into the primer, you'll be forced do exactly that.

Nitty-Gritty Time
To repair a scratch, start by washing the panel with soapy water and then drying it thoroughly. To fix the scratch you won't really be removing it at all. Rather, you'll be sanding down the paint surrounding the damaged area until they are both at the same level. As you might guess, the goal is to sand down to the level of the scratch without sanding through to the next layer.

To make sure you don't go too far, rub a material into the scratch that contrasts with the paint color. In the case of our red Porsche photo car, we used black shoe polish. If the car is a dark color, white shoe polish, Wite-Out or another light-colored material will work. Once the contrasting color is in the scratch, sand remaining material from the paint surface.

The key to sanding safely is to use an ultrafine 2000- to 3000-grit wet/dry sandpaper, which is available at auto parts stores where body shop supplies are sold. Place the paper on a rubber sanding block or a wood block, then dip it in a bowl of cold water. Add two or three drops of liquid dish detergent to make the water more slippery and to improve cutting action. Sand the scratch area using light, short strokes at alternating 60-degree angles to the scratch. Move up and down the length of the scratch, stopping frequently to rinse the paper in the water. The goal is to work slowly and lightly until you see the contrasting mark disappear.

Once it is gone, dry the sanded area thoroughly and inspect it for any signs of the scratch. If you have clearcoat paint and the sanding water shows any sign of color, you'll have to respray the clear. If you have conventional (nonclearcoat) enamel or lacquer, the water will show plenty of color. Once the scratch is gone -- and you haven't sanded down to the next layer -- buff the area with rubbing compound. A power buffer works fast, but you can do a fine job on smaller areas with no more than a terry cloth washcloth and a bottle of compound. Buff in a circular motion, and lift up the haze with a terry cloth towel.

When the sandpaper scratches are gone, use a soft cloth to remove any of the relatively coarse compound. You may need to wash the area with water. Replace the rubbing-compound pad on the machine with a foam polishing-compound pad, and buff the entire area with very fine compound or swirl mark eliminator. Once the polishing is done, inspect the area, then seal the paint with car wax.

Step-By-Step

1. Shoe polish can be used to visualize the scratches.

2. Wipe the shoe polish over the panel. This fills the scratches with polish.

3. Block sand the panel with 2000-grit wet/dry sandpaper and plenty of water. Sand until the shoe polish disappears.

4. Polish out the sanding scratches with rubbing compound.

5. A polishing wheel makes short work of bringing the shine back. An oscillating polisher is less aggressive than this rotary polisher. Don't buff through the paint into the next layer, especially on high-crown or sharp edges.

6. Finish with light hand buffing to remove the last of the compound. Follow with car wax.
 
Fixing Scratches
You don't need fancy tools to distinguish a scratch from a mark. A fingernail drawn over the surface at 90 degrees to the defect will tell you if it's gouged into the paint or sitting on top of it. If it's a mark that appears to be from rubber, plastic or even other paint, it may come off easily with an aerosol tar or adhesive remover. Stubborn marks often can be removed with acetone or lacquer thinner on a soft rag. If the mark is still there after using one of these solvents, try hand rubbing or polishing compound. First, clean the area with soap and water, then spread rubbing compound on the mark and rub the area in a circular motion until the mark disappears. Once it's gone, switch to a back-and-forth motion to remove circular buffing marks. Buff the area with a clean cloth to remove rubbing compound. Then, using a fresh pad, clean the area with polishing compound to remove the fine scratches left by the rubbing compound. Finish by sealing the surface with a good car wax.

If the defect is a scratch, determine if it extends below the surface of the paint and into the primer. Sometimes one end of the scratch looks fine but the other end gets deeper and deeper until it breaks through into the primer and the metal underneath. How much of that scratch is below the color? If it's a small portion of the entire scratch, you may want to repair what you can, and just try to ignore the rest until you're prepared to repaint the panel.

Modern cars are almost always clearcoated over the color layer of the paint. This is done to provide a shinier finish, as well as to prevent ultraviolet light from fading the pigment underneath it.

Scratches in clearcoat can similarly be sanded out. However, if you sand completely through the clear into the color underneath, you have to respray the clear on that panel. That's still easier than trying to match the color of the original paint, spraying the panel and then clearÂ#coating over it. If the scratch goes into the primer, you'll be forced do exactly that.

Nitty-Gritty Time
To repair a scratch, start by washing the panel with soapy water and then drying it thoroughly. To fix the scratch you won't really be removing it at all. Rather, you'll be sanding down the paint surrounding the damaged area until they are both at the same level. As you might guess, the goal is to sand down to the level of the scratch without sanding through to the next layer.

To make sure you don't go too far, rub a material into the scratch that contrasts with the paint color. In the case of our red Porsche photo car, we used black shoe polish. If the car is a dark color, white shoe polish, Wite-Out or another light-colored material will work. Once the contrasting color is in the scratch, sand remaining material from the paint surface.

The key to sanding safely is to use an ultrafine 2000- to 3000-grit wet/dry sandpaper, which is available at auto parts stores where body shop supplies are sold. Place the paper on a rubber sanding block or a wood block, then dip it in a bowl of cold water. Add two or three drops of liquid dish detergent to make the water more slippery and to improve cutting action. Sand the scratch area using light, short strokes at alternating 60-degree angles to the scratch. Move up and down the length of the scratch, stopping frequently to rinse the paper in the water. The goal is to work slowly and lightly until you see the contrasting mark disappear.

Once it is gone, dry the sanded area thoroughly and inspect it for any signs of the scratch. If you have clearcoat paint and the sanding water shows any sign of color, you'll have to respray the clear. If you have conventional (nonclearcoat) enamel or lacquer, the water will show plenty of color. Once the scratch is gone -- and you haven't sanded down to the next layer -- buff the area with rubbing compound. A power buffer works fast, but you can do a fine job on smaller areas with no more than a terry cloth washcloth and a bottle of compound. Buff in a circular motion, and lift up the haze with a terry cloth towel.

When the sandpaper scratches are gone, use a soft cloth to remove any of the relatively coarse compound. You may need to wash the area with water. Replace the rubbing-compound pad on the machine with a foam polishing-compound pad, and buff the entire area with very fine compound or swirl mark eliminator. Once the polishing is done, inspect the area, then seal the paint with car wax.

Step-By-Step

1. Shoe polish can be used to visualize the scratches.

2. Wipe the shoe polish over the panel. This fills the scratches with polish.

3. Block sand the panel with 2000-grit wet/dry sandpaper and plenty of water. Sand until the shoe polish disappears.

4. Polish out the sanding scratches with rubbing compound.

5. A polishing wheel makes short work of bringing the shine back. An oscillating polisher is less aggressive than this rotary polisher. Don't buff through the paint into the next layer, especially on high-crown or sharp edges.

6. Finish with light hand buffing to remove the last of the compound. Follow with car wax.
 
Well you see its not always possible to mix from a code, there can be several shades. As I mentioned we use a number of different brands to achieve a good match, if we're really stuck for a colour we can get a spectro in to analyse the paint and forumulate a mix.
The main problem for matching red is that it fades like wanno, and if the car is done in basecoat and laquer you can't buff it up to remove the oxidisation. (This is the reason you see a lot of pink cars on the road, or red cars with a pink spoiler or bumper - think MX5s or the old VW passat with the big plastic front)

So yeah you ain't really gonna get a match from a wizz can mixed up by a part timer in halfords with a handful of out of date swatches.

Your always better off going to a local motor factors (obviously one that supplies paint!) or a local bodyshop. Think we charge a tenner for a bottle of touch up so you wouldn't be paying over the odds by going to a specialist.
 
Step-By-Step

1. Shoe polish can be used to visualize the scratches.

2. Wipe the shoe polish over the panel. This fills the scratches with polish.

3. Block sand the panel with 2000-grit wet/dry sandpaper and plenty of water. Sand until the shoe polish disappears.

4. Polish out the sanding scratches with rubbing compound.

5. A polishing wheel makes short work of bringing the shine back. An oscillating polisher is less aggressive than this rotary polisher. Don't buff through the paint into the next layer, especially on high-crown or sharp edges.

6. Finish with light hand buffing to remove the last of the compound. Follow with car wax.

Mmm nice copy and paste work, and I'm guessing off a yank website?

FOR GOD SAKE DON'T PUT SHOE POLISH ON YOUR PAINT WORK! It contains silicone and will make painting over the top in future a pain. Silicone is evil evil stuff that causes massive problems when repainting a car (the amount of times we've kicked off at traders for bringing cars down lathered in crappy trim shine and tyre dressing. The trim shine we use is a non silicone one so we can actually have it in the building!)
 
Mmm nice copy and paste work, and I'm guessing off a yank website?

FOR GOD SAKE DON'T PUT SHOE POLISH ON YOUR PAINT WORK! It contains silicone and will make painting over the top in future a pain. Silicone is evil evil stuff that causes massive problems when repainting a car (the amount of times we've kicked off at traders for bringing cars down lathered in crappy trim shine and tyre dressing. The trim shine we use is a non silicone one so we can actually have it in the building!)

couldnt u just use a de-silicone wash?

nasty stuff i admit
but at the same time anybody attemping to respray a panel purely from instructions they found on the internet with no previous knowledge- experience should definitely reconsider their actions. or at least practise on something else first.
 
You can use an anti-silicone de-greaser, but silicone is nasty nasty stuff and tends to spread and get onto other things and can cause all kinds of contamination problems. It's definatly something I'd avoid massaging into damaged paintwork!
 
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