1.0L 16v modifications help?

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rapidmicra59

hi to everyone.
I have a w reg 2000 plate 1.0L 3 dr micra and its just too slow.
never been played with totally standard.
I have just changed the tyres for 165/55/14 on the standard rims as the skinny's are totally useless on cornering.
ok here's the thing I travel to and from work via dual carriage ways and motorways and my little 1.0L is just to slow on the pick up seems to take for ever.
mileage is 59,000 doesn't leak, doesn't smoke, sips fuel just not quick.
it will do 60 in third and I have had just over 100 in fifth
didn't like it at first so tried to trash it but upon driving it hard cleared all the crap out the system now its a small rocket that I would like to turn in to an exocet missle.
don't want to spend thousands and do major rebuild mods just want a quicker car and no I don't want to change the lump for a 1.6l turbo or supercharged monster.
the best idea would be to put a skyline lump init but that wont fit and I don't have the funds.
happy to do mods and capable to do my self but need some info on induction kits and exhaust.
use to have a gti of another make (which always beat Scooby's no prob) and that had a Jan speed exhaust but cannot find a supplier that wont cost a fortune, don't mind noise as long as its not a plod puller
Induction kit what is the most decent that would give me a good improvement without costing the earth.
I have found a RAMAIR filter kit on eBay for £42 is this any good.
is the K&N 57i kit any good.
all help received is appreciated
 
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Easy bits to do are remove the "Boom Tube" from the air box and replace the original exhaust manifold with a Tubular one. Slightly more complex is putting the 1.3 cams in the 1.0 engine, and I have heard good results being had by changing the plugs to Bosche Super 4's.
 
1.4 engine. Plug and play, fast micra. Or sell it and buy a 1.4. induction kits, manifolds, cams etc are fine if that's what you want to do but are just tinkering round the edges really. My 2p.
 
drand said:
1.4 engine. Plug and play, fast micra. Or sell it and buy a 1.4. induction kits, manifolds, cams etc are fine if that's what you want to do but are just tinkering round the edges really. My 2p.
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He did say he doesn't want to change the engine. I'd say cams, manifold, and plugs would be a good start. Then add the adjustable Fuel Regulator and you can get better fuelling with better breathing. Of course there is all manner of headwork that could be done, but what I've suggested can be done without needing special equipment.
 
True enough, though I suggested it because it's literally a swap and not a conversion. When you can get a 1.4 for the price of a manifold and induction system it comes down to whether you have the time / skill / inclination to do it, in terms of bang for buck it's unbeatable. I'd agree about cams and manifold though, and a thorough service. The only cheap. intake mods that are half way proven are Primera 1.6 airbox and sensible diameter and length Intake pipe.
 
Hi guys
Well i have a big budget later as i intend to keep this for as long a humanly possible as its a to and from work vehicle.
But at the mo i am restoring a classic mini and this will be a tomahawk missile.
So far have spent £9k on the mini and the engine will be about 200bhp,quaife box and diff,twin dcoe 45's etc
I am extremely pleased with the info received so far and look forward to more input.
Last night i took off the boom tube for the airbox and the car is already a tiny bit quicker, i will be doing the plugs and later the cams.
Where would i get a tube type manifold from and are the 1.3 cams from a 1.3L micra.
Cheers and will keep you all posted
 
Yes, the CG13DE cams are a direct swap to the CG10DE. No idea where you get the manifold from: I'm sure someone on here will know, what with the mad Rally boys/Girls on here :)
 
Hi guys and gals
I have just fitted my old suzuki swift gti induction kit which is a 4" diameter to my 1.0L micra.
Its ticks over the same and picksup quicker on throttle so will see how it does.
Taking tools to work in case i have to swap.
See picture for info.
 

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It's a 1.0, I'm not really sure what you're expecting.

It'll never be supercar slaying..
 
Hi ya
No i know but it will be quicker than it was when i got it.
Want to improve on the standard as they are quite slow to what im use (600cc motorcycle freak,0-60 in 3.2 secs)and these days my insurance for a car is currently £900
Not had insurance for 6 years as i had a company vehicle with private use.
New job no company motor so had to buy a motor i could afford to insure and the micra was a good choice
However needs to be quicker.
I need acceleration not top end as plod dont like high speed.
Cheers.
 
rapidmicra59 said:
Hi ya
No i know but it will be quicker than it was when i got it.
Want to improve on the standard as they are quite slow to what im use (600cc motorcycle freak,0-60 in 3.2 secs)and these days my insurance for a car is currently £900
Not had insurance for 6 years as i had a company vehicle with private use.
New job no company motor so had to buy a motor i could afford to insure and the micra was a good choice
However needs to be quicker.
I need acceleration not top end as plod dont like high speed.
Cheers.
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Ahhh, that feeling of immense inadequacy you feel when you hop off a bike and get into a car... You just can't beat that "I can beat pretty much every car around here" feeling...
 
dont know if its coincidence or not but my 1.0 k11 on a L plate was sluggish as hell. i switched to tesco momentum octane 99 and its pick up was much better. since i've had it all i have done is maintain it so far no upgrades at all done a full service and fuel change. also i dont know if its related but i made the momentum change about 3 months ago and this week i had to solder my throttle body but that done its all happy again. im also going to be looking into the 1.3 cams when i can find somewhere to get them but my current project priority is a tidy gearbox.

momentum pro's and cons that i have found,
pro's - better acceleration, better MPG, added goodness for your engine (so they say im no fuel specialist)
con's - its a tad more expensive but i found the mpg against the cost evened out about the same when its put milage to cash.
 
we did back to back tests on a honda CBR1000RR (set up and modified for National Superstock 1000 racing) from 2009 on a dyno with tesco 95 unleaded and 98 "super" unleaded. its made 177.49bhp at the wheel with 95 octane, and on 98 octane, made 177.77bhp. with mapping for the 98 octane fuel, it then made 178.25bhp.......

i am very cynical about the perceived bonuses of high octane fuels, and a lot of fuel specialists i know (race engineers, fuel suppliers etc) are similarly cynical.
 
tomwest said:
we did back to back tests on a honda CBR1000RR (set up and modified for National Superstock 1000 racing) from 2009 on a dyno with tesco 95 unleaded and 98 "super" unleaded. its made 177.49bhp at the wheel with 95 octane, and on 98 octane, made 177.77bhp. with mapping for the 98 octane fuel, it then made 178.25bhp.......

i am very cynical about the perceived bonuses of high octane fuels, and a lot of fuel specialists i know (race engineers, fuel suppliers etc) are similarly cynical.
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Mapping doesn't change the compression ratio, which is where the gains are made with high octane fuel.
 
rapidmicra59 said:
Hi ya
No i know but it will be quicker than it was when i got it.
Want to improve on the standard as they are quite slow to what im use (600cc motorcycle freak,0-60 in 3.2 secs)and these days my insurance for a car is currently £900
Not had insurance for 6 years as i had a company vehicle with private use.
New job no company motor so had to buy a motor i could afford to insure and the micra was a good choice
However needs to be quicker.
I need acceleration not top end as plod dont like high speed.
Cheers.
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Performance modification and motor insurer costs!

Modifying the Micra will instantly put a rocket up your motor insurance costs, year-on-year! Your existing insurer may refuse to cover you and cancel your contract when they learn of your performance modification plans. Not informing your insurer is not a lawful option! On balance, it might be more practical, efficient and reliable, to buy an original unmolested unmodified 1.3 or 1.4,~ as a quicker daily commute?
 
Enuo said:
Mapping doesn't change the compression ratio, which is where the gains are made with high octane fuel.
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the fireblade has a compression ratio of 12.3:1 as standard and ours had a 0.45mm head skim.

and yes, you have to map it correctly for the RON you're using. more octane is more resistance to detonation.
 
Hi chaps
Once again thanks for the info.
Using momentum and resoldering the throttle body hmmmm what does that tell you.
Well i may not keep the micra as it is just way too slow its like a bloody snail.
Insurance is way too steep to even consider a 1.6L
So will probaly go back to bikes.
If any would like to buy an unmolested W reg 2000 micra 1.0L, 60,000 miles in good condition tax till november 2014 mot till june 2015
Has sunroof and never been smoked in.
Rear side windows mirror tinted as its a silver micra
I am the second ever owner.
Make me an offer above £1000
If not then i'll stick it on ebay,gumtree,friday ad
I'm just sick of the cramped driving as i'm 6ft 3" and the seat is as far back as it goes.
Message me if your serious about purchasing it.
 
suzuki swift gti beating scooby turbos????,,,,,,,,ive had a few swift gti's;),,,there quick but no match for a scooby turbo,,,sorry

scooby turbo 0-60 in under 5 seconds

swift gti 0-60 just over 8 seconds

my last swift had a low ratio box,chipped and cammed and my mates standard wrx still shot off,,,,,,,your just not going to beat the grip they have
 
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Well i cannot find it comfortable to drive as it feels very cramped too me.
Yes swifts do beat turbo scoobys.
Mate has a swift gti turbo pushing 230 bhp proven dyno printout, now currently putting it up to 300 bhp.
T3 garret turbo fitted on upgraded intrenals.
With apexi and lots of other goodies.
Oil cooler,hi flow exhaust huge induction with cabbage launcher for exhaust.
Used to be a mk2 turned into a mk3 inside.
1.5 lsd to get rid of huge torque steer.
Anyway i still dont like the micra but it will have to do for now.
Thanks for all your help guys.
Will keep you posted on what transpires.
Regards
Rapidmicra59
 
sorry mate i read it as 'you' having owned a normal swift gti,,,,but seeing as its your mate who owns a rare 4x4 turbo swift gti with all the goodies i let you off:p
 
I did have a normal swift gti but with a stage 1 head port and polished and skimmed from srd in america at $749
I also had the big induction kit and it was very fast.
I had a chap in a scooby try to chase me but he backed off and i just kept going the needle went off the clock.
As i always say these days its down to who is brave enough to go over the speed limit these days as anything over 100 mph is an instant licence looser.
My mate has the ultimate swift and its taken a long time to get to where he is.
All his own work all done in his own garage.
He is on his third shell as the others had finally rotted out, very common with swifts.
His swift is not 4x4 just a very tuned turbo swift.
He wanted to do the escudo but that runs two engines and can be tuned to about 1800 bhp.
However no one will ever release the plans to make it as it would not be accepted by the SVA for road use.
 
Yes and no
Excellent game one of the best for its time.
Anyway hes happy with his turbo swift.
I shall be happy once my mini is done
Forza 4&5 these days
Still excellent graphics
 
room full of mates and the drift track on need for speed ps2,,,,,,,,nuff said!!!! oh and a pack of haribos,sunny delight and a big bag of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,o_O

your theory on whoever is brave enough to brake the speed limits when it comes to racing reaching speeds over 100mph makes no sense to me at all,,,,,because in all the years ive messed around in cars not one race has made it to 100mph,,,,thats not a race thats a 24hr le mans for most street cars!!!!!

if your talking about the drag strip then thats different but when it comes to the lights if i'm ahead at 60mph youve been done,,,end of,,finished,,your cars sh1t!!!!,,buy me a macdonalds loser!!!:D
 
rapidmicra59 said:
hi to everyone.
I have a w reg 2000 plate 1.0L 3 dr micra and its just too slow.
never been played with totally standard.
I have just changed the tyres for 165/55/14 on the standard rims as the skinny's are totally useless on cornering.
ok here's the thing I travel to and from work via dual carriage ways and motorways and my little 1.0L is just to slow on the pick up seems to take for ever.
mileage is 59,000 doesn't leak, doesn't smoke, sips fuel just not quick.
it will do 60 in third and I have had just over 100 in fifth
didn't like it at first so tried to trash it but upon driving it hard cleared all the crap out the system now its a small rocket that I would like to turn in to an exocet missle.
don't want to spend thousands and do major rebuild mods just want a quicker car and no I don't want to change the lump for a 1.6l turbo or supercharged monster.
the best idea would be to put a skyline lump init but that wont fit and I don't have the funds.
happy to do mods and capable to do my self but need some info on induction kits and exhaust.
use to have a gti of another make (which always beat Scooby's no prob) and that had a Jan speed exhaust but cannot find a supplier that wont cost a fortune, don't mind noise as long as its not a plod puller
Induction kit what is the most decent that would give me a good improvement without costing the earth.
I have found a RAMAIR filter kit on eBay for £42 is this any good.
is the K&N 57i kit any good.
all help received is appreciated
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Mine is a 2003 K11 1.0 Tempest. I have added a cheap induction kit & lowered it by 35mm. in its current trim its revs out at 55mph in second & 81mph in third & 4th has never hit limiter yet! 5 th gear seem an overdrive gear and just comes into its own for cruising. check out a coilpack mod & see if that can help!!! I would love to try cams etc.. but the weathers not permitting & Funds are on hold. hahaha. good luck
 
A tomahawk missile... Wow... Not surprised your expectations led to you making the decision to sell it tbh lol.

Without going in harsh you sound abit naive but I spose it's a Micra forum and we were all young once, talk of making 1000cc's go faster with an induction kit and a Swift (which clearly must be a Ferrari homologation hence you forgetting it was a Suzuki-easy mistake) "beating" a Scooby makes my head hurt.

I'd put my money on the bikes being 2 strokes... Regardless they're all good fun, just not necessarily Escudo quick...

On a serious note. Keep your Micra and make it look nicer- spend money on servicing, wheels and some lows and keep your licence whilst saving on the cheap running costs then in a few years (like you originally planned by the looks of it) "upgrade" to something a bit quicker.

If you're intent on getting something "quick" with a small engine look no further than a Daihatsu- Cuore/Mira/Avanzato/Charade.
 

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